What state or City offers the Best ROI?

What state or City offers the Best ROI?

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Hello, I live in New york and I have one multi family Investment property. I purchased it at the end of the housing crisis.  I would like to invest into more properties, however New york is very expensive and the laws are not landlord friendly. What state or City should I look into that would give me great or the best returns? 

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Sam McCormackBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH/NKY · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 833 votes
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@Jeffrey Sou

Hey Jeffrey, I recommend Cincinnati, OH. Landlord friendly city/state, lower price point to get into, good cash flow on the right property, etc. I sent you a message so we can get connected!

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  • Taylor DaschBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Temple, TX · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 700 votes
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    There are plenty - it depends on how you look at things / your goals. You can either shoot for appreciation or cash flow. My tip would be to find one that is decent for whatever your goals are. Get very familiar with the market, and then start searching for deals relentlessly! If you try to research everything in that much detail, it will take a long time and delay you from taking action!

  • Sam McCormackBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH/NKY · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 833 votes
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    @Jeffrey Sou

    Hey Jeffrey, I recommend Cincinnati, OH. Landlord friendly city/state, lower price point to get into, good cash flow on the right property, etc. I sent you a message so we can get connected!

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  • Real Estate Agent · Austin, TX · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 941 votes
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    Quote from @Jeffrey Sou:

    Hello, I live in New york and I have one multi family Investment property. I purchased it at the end of the housing crisis.  I would like to invest into more properties, however New york is very expensive and the laws are not landlord friendly. What state or City should I look into that would give me great or the best returns? 


    What do you want, cash flow or appreciation? How long do you want to hold? Do you want value add or turnkey? Questions like these will help you narrow down much quicker than best ROI.

  • Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2022 · 184 posts · 78 votes
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    That's going to vary widely based on many factors. 

    I am an analyst at a real estate investment advisory firm that is investing our capital and helping clients invest theirs, in two midwestern markets currently. 

    I'm happy to chat about our services and what markets we've picked and why.

    Feel free to reach out. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Centreville, VA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 799 votes
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    Hi Jeff, I have found value investing in Cleveland, OH because it is home to Cleveland Clinic, lot of good neighborhoods, landlord friendly laws, stable appreciation and good cash flowing properties. There are also abundant opportunities for small multi family and SFH. I have been able to scale up to 12 doors in 2 years so definitely recommend this area. Feel free to reach out and we can discuss.

  • Investor · Great Neck, NY · Member since 2016 · 679 posts · 467 votes
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    @Jeffrey Sou

    Hello fellow NYer. Yes our state is terrible when it comes to property laws. If you are considering investing out of state, please speak to those who have done it successfully and really understand how it works because it is a relationship driven business. I have been investing out of state for 15 years now and having someone familiar with the area, specifically pockets of growth opportunities helps out tremendously versus just choosing an area because it looks good on paper.

  • Mackaylee BeachPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 492 votes
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    @Jeffrey Sou I am biased to Kansas City.  You'll find pretty low taxes and lower entry points!

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2022 · 147 posts · 40 votes
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    Quote from @Mackaylee Beach:

    @Jeffrey Sou I am biased to Kansas City.  You'll find pretty low taxes and lower entry points!


     I agree! However, also biased lol(born and raised here in KC)

  • Real Estate Agent · Member since 2019 · 569 posts · 257 votes
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    Quote from @Jeffrey Sou:

    Hello, I live in New york and I have one multi family Investment property. I purchased it at the end of the housing crisis.  I would like to invest into more properties, however New york is very expensive and the laws are not landlord friendly. What state or City should I look into that would give me great or the best returns? 


    Hi Jeffrey, what is your preferred cash on cash return and appreciation? Are you wanting LTR or STR? Would you consider renovating? How much capital would you like to invest in a property?

  • Dan H.Pro Member
    Investor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
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    Quote from @Jeffrey Sou:

    Hello, I live in New york and I have one multi family Investment property. I purchased it at the end of the housing crisis.  I would like to invest into more properties, however New york is very expensive and the laws are not landlord friendly. What state or City should I look into that would give me great or the best returns? 


     I suspect where you are located is your best market.  Here are some things to consider:

    RE markets are efficient.  Prices are representative of numerous parameters but 3 large ones are expected appreciation, expected rent growth, and risk. The LL unfriendly laws are represented in the market price

    OOS investing has a risk beyond the risk associated with the local market.  Maintaining a trusted team is tough enough to do local, but much more challenging OOS

    Local investing allows you to leverage your local knowledge.  OOS you are at a disadvantage versus the local investors in that knowledge.

    Loca investing allows easier heroics if/when necessary.  I had OOS property hit by hurricanes in back to back years. We had to travel to the properties to get the damage worked versus the promises they were spewing.

    At least 2 of the markets mentioned above have declining populations.  One has had population decline of over 50%.  Beware of market recommendations from anyone that benefits from people investing in that market.  Also recognize what a 50% population decline implies for appreciation and rent growth.

    Typically tenant friendly laws are enacted because of crazy low vacancy numbers (I.e. housing shortage) and even with the tenant friendly laws the power is with the LL.  My market has very friendly tenant laws, but is has crazy low vacancy, one of the lowest eviction rates in the country, and one of the lowest delinquency rates in the country. A tenant who gets evicted will have real difficulty obtaining decent housing in my market (we will not rent to anyone who has been evicted and this is a common criteria in my market).  

    I suspect your best chance of success is to invest in your local market.  

    Good luck

  • Rental Property Investor · Green Bay, WI · Member since 2016 · 150 posts · 94 votes
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    hello@Jeffrey Sou.  There are many cities and regions of the country where strong cashflows are still possible through quality properties in spite of the current interest rates.  Be very careful when comparing one city to another, one property manager to another or one property to another.  Run all of the numbers through YOUR analysis tool and don't be swayed by someone else's proforma.  Everyone accounts for expenses and incomes differently and there are some widely different scenarios for appreciation, inflation rates, etc.  All the best in your investing future!

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
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    Quote from @Jeffrey Sou:

    Hello, I live in New york and I have one multi family Investment property. I purchased it at the end of the housing crisis.  I would like to invest into more properties, however New york is very expensive and the laws are not landlord friendly. What state or City should I look into that would give me great or the best returns? 


     I saw Cleveland was one of the markets suggested to you. Lot's of money to be made and lost here in Cleveland. If you do look into this market further, read The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods before you drop a big amount of cash.

  • John WilliamsBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2018 · 443 posts · 210 votes
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    Check out Clarksville, TN - where cash flow meets appreciation! I connect with a lot of out of state investors who've got their eyes on our market - for good reason too!

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