First BRRR completed in Milwaukee, WI - NO MONEY DOWN

First BRRR completed in Milwaukee, WI - NO MONEY DOWN

Investor · SE Wisconsin/NE Illinois · Member since 2012 · 109 posts · 57 votes

Hey Biggerpockets! I wanted to share my BRRR project and how the numbers worked out.

At the beginning of the year, based on a hotter multi-family market, I switched gears to focus solely on foreclosed duplexes. Starting on the MLS, I looked at duplexes that needed under $10,000 in rehab work in B-/C+ neighborhoods.

As a full-time occupation, I am a commercial real estate professional. Although I am licensed and have MLS credentials, I have found it makes the most sense to have a trusted broker (@Michael Henry), to walk the properties with me, provide his opinion/feedback, and write my offers for me. After 2-3 showings per week for about 2 months, I found a 3/2 BR upper/lower duplex that showed promise.

Mike has completed and advised on many rehab/rental projects and his expertise was helpful in making a decision. Primarily, the rehab work was cosmetic, but including finishing off a bathroom. The rehab cost was estimated at $5,700. I put in an offer of $55,000, which was slightly over asking price, due to multiple offers. I estimated the ARV to be right around $100,000 (60.7% LTV).

Concerning financing, I had partnered up with another partner, who provided the down-payment. In order to remain flexible, I approached a local hard money lender, who funded 65% of the ARV. With this structure, I was able to purchase the building for NO MONEY DOWN.

I closed on the property on 3/27/17, and the rehab timeframe was roughly one month. Also, during this time, I found a local credit union who could refinance me out of the hard money for up to 80% LTV with NO SEASONING PERIOD for the full appraisal value.

Once the rehab work was completed, we immediately began to show the duplex to potential tenants. The duplex was marketed for $775 for the 2 br and $875 for the 3 br ($1650/mo total). With maintenance reserves, CAPEX, insurance, taxes, utilities, and a vacancy factor, the cash-flow is $425/month.

For me, the cool thing was be able to refinance and walk away with cash for a deal that I put absolutely no money into! The property appraised for $101,000 and I was able to refinance at 80% ($80,800). Therefore, at closing, after paying back my "down-payment" partner and making a few hard money payments and fees, I was able to walk away with a check for $10,600.

The even better news is that I have 6 more of these BRRR projects in the pipeline (2 in the rehab phase, 1 closes tomorrow, and 3 are pending to close). More posts to come!!

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Real Estate Consultant · Brookfield, WI · Member since 2014 · 873 posts · 350 votes
9y

@Kyle Mack I try my best!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    Sounds like a great deal!  Your rehab numbers sound amazing.. $10,000!  I am getting gouged on my rehabs and need to focus on making that go down.  

    1) What was the square footage?  Just to get an idea on the rehab cost/square foot.

    2) So are you doing an equity split with your down payment partner?  50/50 or 60/40 or 70/30?  Otherwise what's in it for him?

    3) Wow, so they were able to do a cash-out refinance for 80% LTV with no seasoning? What kind of lender are you using and what are their terms? The conventional financing from when I spoke to lenders only lent up to 75% LTV with 6 months seasoning for a 30 year fixed rate loan with ~5% interest. Otherwise a rate-and-term refinance they can go up to 80% LTV with no seasoning, but that would only cover up to what the previous hard money loan amount was.

    Nice work!

  • Sierra Vista, AZ · Member since 2017 · 11 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    What neighborhood in Milwaukee did you do your BRRR in, if you don't mind me asking? It is so encouraging to hear about your success and how you did it!

  • Real Estate Agent · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2017 · 8 posts · 8 votes
    9y

    That's great! I love hearing about deals in my market for inspiration. 

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2013 · 23 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    Amazing story - thank you for sharing.  I am blown away $5k in repairs resulted in a $40k increase in equity, especially with how conservative some appraisers are now being. How is the neighborhood?  Would you call this C grade subjectively?  The trulia crime map isn't always accurate but looks like there is a bit of crime in the area.  Sec 8 renters?    

  • Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Great job! Way to go @Kyle Mack

  • Real Estate Agent · Ashburn, VA · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    Way to go @Kyle Mack! Most inspiring thing I've read today.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2008 · 489 posts · 300 votes
    9y

    Great job @Kyle Mack! You've come a long way:)

  • Sergey TkachevPro Member
    Investor, Agent, CPA · West Sacramento, CA · Member since 2009 · 706 posts · 262 votes
    9y

    @Kyle Mack - Congrats! Those numbers look great, thanks for sharing!  

    Are you planning to finance the other BRRR deals in the pipeline with the same credit union?

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Berkeley Springs, WV · Member since 2017 · 164 posts · 103 votes
    9y

    Amazing! Thank you for sharing!

  • Real Estate Agent · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    Amazing!!!!!!

  • Real Estate Agent · Milwaukee County, WI · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 525 votes
    9y

    I know this been a long journey for your family.

    The Brewcity local meet ups from a few years ago is starting to pay off.

    I would also recommend Sarah for hardmoney funding

    Mike nice looking out

    Kyle : total amount paid out for hardmoney ?

    Regardless congrats

  • Investor · Leander, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 40 votes
    9y

    Looks great Kyle.

    Keep it up.

    i have completed one BRRRR. You are my motivation to look for the next one.

  • Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    Congrats @Kyle Mack

      @Michael Henry you don't cease to amaze

  • Lender · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 119 posts · 62 votes
    9y

    Nice work!  Would you mind sharing the credit union who did the cash out financing for you?  

  • Investor · Lancaster, PA · Member since 2017 · 38 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    @Kyle Mack Hey Kyle, looks like a great deal. What did the partner gain in partnering with you for the down payment? What kind of terms did you have with your partner? Thanks for sharing!!

  • Real Estate Agent · Littleton, CO · Member since 2017 · 44 posts · 12 votes
    9y

    That is awesome, love the floors.

  • Catonsville, MD · Member since 2016 · 41 posts · 12 votes
    9y

    @Kyle Mack that's super successful man congrats. what kind of downpayment did the hard money guy require? Also, did you supply a SS fridge as well? And are those new floors or were there floors under the carpet? that's quite an amazing makeover for only 5700$. or maybe prices here in baltimore are just higher

  • Specialist · Dallas, TX · Member since 2014 · 900 posts · 392 votes
    9y

    Great job, thanks for sharing with us, and glad to see you got creative on the down payment, did it for no out of pocket expense, and put some cash in your pocket! Winning!

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 238 posts · 101 votes
    9y

    @Kyle Mack  Congratulations!  Thanks for sharing your success story.  Best of luck on the others currently in the pipeline :)

  • Investor · Franklin, WI · Member since 2013 · 25 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    Great results!

  • Shawn AckermanPro Member
    Real Estate Entrepreneur · Mid West, East Coast · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Kyle Mack this looks great.  Happy for you my friend.

  • Rental Property Investor · PLEASANT GROVE, UT · Member since 2017 · 26 posts · 9 votes
    9y

    Thanks for sharing, Kyle. I super appreciate how specific you are in explaining each step of the process. How the next projects go just as well. 

  • Investor · Northern Virginia · Member since 2017 · 159 posts · 59 votes
    9y

    @Kyle Mack Great Job. Keep us posted on your other deals.

  • Del Rio, TX · Member since 2017 · 25 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    @Kyle Mack  Awesome! You went 0-60 in 1.2!!

  • Investor · SE Wisconsin/NE Illinois · Member since 2012 · 109 posts · 57 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Mark L.:

    Sounds like a great deal!  Your rehab numbers sound amazing.. $10,000!  I am getting gouged on my rehabs and need to focus on making that go down.  

    1) What was the square footage?  Just to get an idea on the rehab cost/square foot.

    2) So are you doing an equity split with your down payment partner?  50/50 or 60/40 or 70/30?  Otherwise what's in it for him?

    3) Wow, so they were able to do a cash-out refinance for 80% LTV with no seasoning? What kind of lender are you using and what are their terms? The conventional financing from when I spoke to lenders only lent up to 75% LTV with 6 months seasoning for a 30 year fixed rate loan with ~5% interest. Otherwise a rate-and-term refinance they can go up to 80% LTV with no seasoning, but that would only cover up to what the previous hard money loan amount was.

    Nice work!

     1. The duplex is 2230 SF, so on $5700, I guess it ended up being $2.56/SF, but this was a very light rehab and consisted mostly of cosmetic concerns.

    2. Yes, there is an equity split with my partner - that's what's in it for him.

    3. The refinance lender was a local credit union.

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