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Considering doing a MTR and need advice
I am contemplating investing in an out-of-state MTR and I have a ton of questions surrounding whether it's a good idea or not. The property is fairly new (built in 1990) and in a solid B area, where appreciation has been a modest but consistent 5% per year over the last 10 years. This particular area does not have too many MTRs, though. The property manager said that she thinks there is a market for MTR rentals in this area, and she's gotten a lot of calls requesting it. She said she charges 20% monthly management fee for her MTRs, as well as $6,000 initially (that includes designing, shopping, setting up, and everything involved- whether that is putting furniture together or hiring help to do that, etc.). Furnishings can also cost between $7K-$10K for this 3 bedroom house.
If this house/area does not end up working out as a MTR, I'd probably pivot to a LTR, in which case i'd barely break even (if that) every month.
I'm struggling to figure out A) are her rates and charges reasonable and ordinary for this kind of rental, B) whether this makes sense, or even how I should be thinking about this. Never done a MTR before; my other rentals are all traditional LTRs.
Any help/guidance would be appreciated!!!
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This is a classic 'MTR pivot' dilemma. While the 5% appreciation in a B-class area is great for the long term, your immediate concern should be the upfront 'friction' costs and your exit strategy.
As an investor and lender, here is how I would stress-test this deal:
1. The Fees: Are they reasonable?
- The 20% Management Fee: This is on the high end for an MTR (usually 12–15%), but if they are truly handling 'hospitality' (linens, professional cleaning coordination, mid-stay inspections), it can be justified.
- The $6k Setup Fee: This is the red flag. Between the $6k service fee and the $10k furniture budget, you are $16k 'in the hole' before Day 1. If the MTR market doesn't materialize, that $16k is a sunk cost that you cannot recover in an LTR pivot.
2. The 'Lender’s Perspective' on Cash Flow You mentioned that as an LTR, you’d 'barely break even.' In the lending world, we look at the DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio). If your LTR rent doesn't cover 1.2x the mortgage, taxes, and insurance, most DSCR lenders will see this as a high-risk asset.
- The MTR Trap: MTR income is great, but many lenders will still underwrite your 'exit' or refinance based on Long-Term Rental market rates (using a Form 1007 appraisal). If the LTR math doesn't work, you might find yourself 'stuck' in a high-interest bridge loan or unable to pull your $16k setup costs back out.
3. Verify the Demand (Don't take the PM's word) Before cutting a $6k check, do your own due diligence:
- Check the 'Hospitals & Corporate Hubs': MTRs thrive on traveling nurses and displaced homeowners (insurance claims). Call the housing coordinator at the nearest hospital or a relocation agency like CHPA (Corporate Housing Providers Association). Ask them if they have a shortage of 3-bedroom units in that zip code.
- Run a 'B-Class' Reality Check: 3-bedroom MTRs are often harder to fill than 1-2 bedrooms. 3-beds are usually for families displaced by fire/flood. Is the PM experienced in insurance housing, or just hoping for 'digital nomads'?
My Advice: If the LTR math doesn't work as a 'Plan B,' this isn't an investment; it's a gamble on a specific manager's ability to find a niche tenant.
I'd be happy to run a 'Stress Test' for you—showing what your DSCR looks like at LTR rates vs. MTR rates—so you can see exactly how much 'cushion' you really have after that 20% management fee!



