Hey everyone,
I’ve been wondering—on average, which strategy brings more leads daily?
Cold Calling or SMS Marketing?
Would love to hear your experiences and what’s been working better for you lately. Let’s compare notes!
Texting brings in way more leads than cold calling. It's not even close right now. I'm in several virtual markets and primarily wholesaling. We're getting 5 solid leads for every 500 texts sent, which is a 1% lead rate. If you compare this to cold calling then you'll be lucky to get 1 lead a day per cold caller.
Cold calling was my primary marketing channel for years and I managed over 40 cold callers at one point. To get the same daily production from cold calling as I do with texting, then I would need 3 cold callers at a minimum. At $5 per your for each cold caller, your monthly expenses would be $2,400 just for cold callers. This doesn't include data and dialers. If each cold caller generated 1.5 leads per day, which is what my callers are averaging, then you can expect 30 leads per cold caller over a 20 business day month - totalling 90 leads for the month.
Based on my metrics, it's taking us roughly 50 - 100 leads to get a property under contract with cold calling. The market matters a lot. If it's an affluent market then the number will be closer to 100. However, regardless of the market, we are experiencing long contract timelines across the board. It's taking 60 - 90 days for these cold call leads to convert to contracts. I can send off a text blast this week of 500 texts per day and have a contract by the end of next week. My contract timeline is 9 days - 45 days with texting.
The people saying that it's illegal have not thoroughly read through the regulations. Ask yourself this: If texting was illegal, would Launch Control have thousands of users? What about Lead Sherpa and REI Reply (the one I use)?
These companies have done their due diligence and understand the laws. The important part is that you become 10DLC / A2P compliant and you follow best practices. It isn't the wild west like it was before 2023. However, it can still be done legally and ethically.
Texting is a blue ocean right now because investors have trouble getting their accounts registered with the organization that approves 10DLC account requests. Additionally, they are blasting thousands of sellers at once, which is causing their accounts to receive 24-hour bans.
Navigating through these issues was worth it for me because I can go in any market and target homeowners who haven't been marketed to at all by other investors.
Below are KPIs for a campaign I did in Savannah recently for texting. We averaged 6 leads per day and sent 337 messages. The daily costs for the texts sent and received were below $10. For cold calling, it would take me 1 week of dialing and paying a cold caller $200 for this same production, and that's being very optimistic about my cold caller's performance.
Before the TCPA restrictions and TCR became a thing in 2023 we were having very high delivery rates and could send out 1200+ messages a day with no issues.
Now anyone that does cold SMS blasting is technically doing it illegally and are subject to fines of $500 per text sent and 1500 per willful violation if they do get reported. The ones that continue to do it accept the risk of being fined. I know someone that has been fined 3x in the same week for doing cold text, but he is still doing it anyways...
Cold calling is still tried and true and more cost effective if you do it yourself. You still need volume but I would say conversion rate is much higher cold calling vs SMS outreach.
Cold calling you still need a good dialer system that provides quality numbers you can use for calling. Readymode and Kixie have some of the highest connection rates we've seen recently with kixie being at 30% connection rate some days. Also, if you look around close enough, you can find some pretty amazing data providers to get high quality lead lists...
Hope this helps!
Hey everyone,
I’ve been wondering—on average, which strategy brings more leads daily?
Cold Calling or SMS Marketing?
Would love to hear your experiences and what’s been working better for you lately. Let’s compare notes!
Hey everyone,
I’ve been wondering—on average, which strategy brings more leads daily?
Cold Calling or SMS Marketing?
Would love to hear your experiences and what’s been working better for you lately. Let’s compare notes!
Ian would love to talk to you about your help with Cold calling.
I don't do any wholesaling or cold calling personally but I've seen several people be successful at it in different areas of the industry.
Texting brings in way more leads than cold calling. It's not even close right now. I'm in several virtual markets and primarily wholesaling. We're getting 5 solid leads for every 500 texts sent, which is a 1% lead rate. If you compare this to cold calling then you'll be lucky to get 1 lead a day per cold caller.
Cold calling was my primary marketing channel for years and I managed over 40 cold callers at one point. To get the same daily production from cold calling as I do with texting, then I would need 3 cold callers at a minimum. At $5 per your for each cold caller, your monthly expenses would be $2,400 just for cold callers. This doesn't include data and dialers. If each cold caller generated 1.5 leads per day, which is what my callers are averaging, then you can expect 30 leads per cold caller over a 20 business day month - totalling 90 leads for the month.
Based on my metrics, it's taking us roughly 50 - 100 leads to get a property under contract with cold calling. The market matters a lot. If it's an affluent market then the number will be closer to 100. However, regardless of the market, we are experiencing long contract timelines across the board. It's taking 60 - 90 days for these cold call leads to convert to contracts. I can send off a text blast this week of 500 texts per day and have a contract by the end of next week. My contract timeline is 9 days - 45 days with texting.
The people saying that it's illegal have not thoroughly read through the regulations. Ask yourself this: If texting was illegal, would Launch Control have thousands of users? What about Lead Sherpa and REI Reply (the one I use)?
These companies have done their due diligence and understand the laws. The important part is that you become 10DLC / A2P compliant and you follow best practices. It isn't the wild west like it was before 2023. However, it can still be done legally and ethically.
Texting is a blue ocean right now because investors have trouble getting their accounts registered with the organization that approves 10DLC account requests. Additionally, they are blasting thousands of sellers at once, which is causing their accounts to receive 24-hour bans.
Navigating through these issues was worth it for me because I can go in any market and target homeowners who haven't been marketed to at all by other investors.
Below are KPIs for a campaign I did in Savannah recently for texting. We averaged 6 leads per day and sent 337 messages. The daily costs for the texts sent and received were below $10. For cold calling, it would take me 1 week of dialing and paying a cold caller $200 for this same production, and that's being very optimistic about my cold caller's performance.
Hey everyone,
I’ve been wondering—on average, which strategy brings more leads daily?
Cold Calling or SMS Marketing?
Would love to hear your experiences and what’s been working better for you lately. Let’s compare notes!
I think both work, but they’re solving the wrong problem if you’re relying on them for “more leads.”
Cold calling and SMS are just distribution. If the underlying data is stale or already picked over, you’re basically competing with everyone else on the same list. That’s where most people get stuck grinding volume with mediocre results.
What’s moved the needle more for me is focusing on when the lead shows up, not how I contact them. Stuff like code enforcement activity, unresolved issues, things that surface before a property ever hits a typical list. Way less competition and way better conversations.
Once the data is right, cold calling works great. Without that, it’s just a numbers game.
Hey everyone,
I’ve been wondering—on average, which strategy brings more leads daily?
Cold Calling or SMS Marketing?
Would love to hear your experiences and what’s been working better for you lately. Let’s compare notes!
I think both work, but they’re solving the wrong problem if you’re relying on them for “more leads.”
Cold calling and SMS are just distribution. If the underlying data is stale or already picked over, you’re basically competing with everyone else on the same list. That’s where most people get stuck grinding volume with mediocre results.
What’s moved the needle more for me is focusing on when the lead shows up, not how I contact them. Stuff like code enforcement activity, unresolved issues, things that surface before a property ever hits a typical list. Way less competition and way better conversations.
Once the data is right, cold calling works great. Without that, it’s just a numbers game.
Other then Cold Calling and SMS what will be your suggestion that i follow and get more leads then Cold calling and SMS?
Thanks for Assistance
Hey everyone,
I’ve been wondering—on average, which strategy brings more leads daily?
Cold Calling or SMS Marketing?
Would love to hear your experiences and what’s been working better for you lately. Let’s compare notes!
I think both work, but they’re solving the wrong problem if you’re relying on them for “more leads.”
Cold calling and SMS are just distribution. If the underlying data is stale or already picked over, you’re basically competing with everyone else on the same list. That’s where most people get stuck grinding volume with mediocre results.
What’s moved the needle more for me is focusing on when the lead shows up, not how I contact them. Stuff like code enforcement activity, unresolved issues, things that surface before a property ever hits a typical list. Way less competition and way better conversations.
Once the data is right, cold calling works great. Without that, it’s just a numbers game.
Other then Cold Calling and SMS what will be your suggestion that i follow and get more leads then Cold calling and SMS?
Thanks for Assistance
I’d stick with cold calling/SMS, just change what you’re calling. If you’re hitting the same recycled lists everyone else is, you’ll get the same results. When you’re reaching out to owners dealing with something real (violations, liens, weird situations, etc.), the conversations are completely different. Way less “not interested” and more actual problem solving.
Cold calling works well if you do it consistently. I had an agent on my team years ago who cold called landlords mon-fri from 9-11am and never missed a day. He ended up selling 22 units his first year, mostly multifamily (calling landlords). I still get the residual benefits of his cold calling today, 5 years later with some of the relationships he built. Most people will be annoyed and hang up, but some of the older landlords didn’t mind talking to a young kid trying to build his business, and those are the guys who have the equity to sell at a decent price point.
I’ve only tried the SMS strategy once and didn’t get a single lead, but there are probably some bigger outfits you could ask who have had success. I will never ever respond to an SMS solicitation but I have personally given businesses to plenty of cold callers and door knockers over the years.
Depends way more on list quality and follow-up cadence than the channel itself. Same list run through both will pull at roughly the same rate over 90 days. The channel debate gets a lot of airtime but the list source and dial/text discipline is what actually moves the number.
Hey everyone,
I’ve been wondering—on average, which strategy brings more leads daily?
Cold Calling or SMS Marketing?
Would love to hear your experiences and what’s been working better for you lately. Let’s compare notes!
From what I've seen, SMS tends to generate more responses, but cold calling usually creates better conversations.
A text can start a conversation, but a phone call gives you context, motivation, urgency, and the ability to handle objections in real time.
The biggest factor isn't necessarily the channel though. It's what happens after the initial contact. Consistent follow-up tends to outperform almost any single lead generation method over the long run.
Curious what others are seeing in today's market.
both work but Carson and Sara are right, the channel debate is kind of a distraction. what actually matters is what happens after the first touch.
used texting for years, tried most of the platforms, eventually built my own setup on the backend. the biggest difference wasn't the platform though, it was having a follow up sequence that actually kept running without me managing it manually every day. that's where most people drop the ball regardless of whether they're calling or texting
both work but Carson and Sara are right, the channel debate is kind of a distraction. what actually matters is what happens after the first touch.
used texting for years, tried most of the platforms, eventually built my own setup on the backend. the biggest difference wasn't the platform though, it was having a follow up sequence that actually kept running without me managing it manually every day. that's where most people drop the ball regardless of whether they're calling or texting
Dominic nailed the real answer in this thread. He said it perfectly: "Cold calling and SMS are just distribution. If the underlying data is stale or already picked over, you're basically competing with everyone else on the same list." Then he mentioned "code enforcement activity, unresolved issues, things that surface before a property ever hits a typical list." That's the entire game right there — but let me make it specific for anyone reading.
Carson said it too: "Depends way more on list quality and follow-up cadence than the channel itself." He's right. Cornelius's texting metrics (5 leads per 500 texts, 1% rate) are solid — but those are on whatever list he's pulling. The question nobody's answering is: what if the list itself was fundamentally different?
Here's what Dominic is describing in practice. Three free county data sources that give you the "something real" he mentioned:
1. County Tax Collector — tax delinquent list. The county already identified owners who can't pay their property taxes. Thousands of parcels in most counties, updated monthly, owner names and amounts owed published. This is financial stress documented by the county.
2. City Code Enforcement — violation records with dollar-amount repair costs from inspectors. When a county inspector walks a property and writes "$12,000 structural repairs" or "$8,500 roof replacement" — that's not a guess, that's a government employee documenting the exact repair scope. This is physical stress documented by the county. Dominic mentioned "code enforcement activity" — this is it, with dollar amounts attached.
3. County Clerk of Court / Register of Deeds — probate filings, liens, pre-foreclosure notices. This is the legal complexity layer. When there's a probate filing on a property, the owner is dealing with inheritance, estate settlement, multiple heirs who may not agree. When there's a lien, there's a debt attached to the property. This is legal stress documented by the county. Dominic mentioned "liens, weird situations" — this is where those live.
Here's the key that changes the channel math entirely: when the SAME PROPERTY shows up on all three sources — tax delinquent AND $15K in documented code violations AND a probate filing — that's converged distress. Three independent county confirmations that the owner has a specific documented problem. You're not calling or texting an absentee owner list hoping 2% respond. You're reaching out to someone whose financial stress, physical distress, and legal complexity are all a matter of public record.
Cornelius said 50-100 cold call leads to get a contract. With converged distress, you're calling owners who already have three county-confirmed problems — the conversation isn't "are you interested in selling?" it's "I see your property has $12K in structural violations from the county inspector and you're behind on taxes — is there a situation I might be able to help with?" That's a completely different call. Sara Joe said cold calling creates better conversations — she's right, and the conversation is better when you know exactly what the owner's documented problem is before you dial.
Rauph said follow-up is what matters — he's right. But follow-up compounds differently when each touchpoint references documented county data. First text: "I see your property on the county tax delinquent list." Follow-up a week later: "I also noticed the code enforcement violation for structural repairs — has the county been in touch with you about that?" Each follow-up adds a new documented data point. That's not generic nurturing — that's referencing their specific situation as it develops.
The channel debate (cold call vs text) is a distraction from the real question: who are you contacting? Dominic already answered it — change what you're calling, not how you call. The three county sources are free, public, and updated regularly. Most wholesalers in any market are pulling the same PropStream absentee owner lists. The person who pulls tax delinquent data, cross-references it against code enforcement violations, then layers on probate filings — that person is calling a list nobody else has because nobody else knows to build it.
Dominic — when you said "code enforcement activity, unresolved issues" — are you pulling that from county records directly, or from a data provider that aggregates it? Curious because the convergence of all three sources on the same property is where the real signal lives, and wondering if you've tested that cross-reference.