Drive for dollars or buy absentee leads?

Drive for dollars or buy absentee leads?

Contractor · Fayetteville NC · Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 1 vote

Should drive around looking for properties and or purchase absentee leads? If so what’s a good site that you would recommend.

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Specialist · Purcellville, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 841 votes
6y

@David Muscovalley,

Motivation stacks.  If you get a list of out-of-state owners, or tax delinquent owners, or whatever else might be one motivation to selling, stack it.  For example, out-of-state owners might be interested in selling, or they might not be.  It's truly a hit or miss, and usually a miss.  But, if you go looking at these houses by D4D, and find the ones that are in distress and/or unoccupied, then you're finding the sellers who have stacked motivations.  The odds of them selling is going to increase with the more situations they might be facing.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    6y

    Driving for dollars is generally a waste of time I have found . A house with high grass that needs maintenance is more often than not a lazy homeowner- not a motivated seller .people don’t have much pride in homeownership these days so it’s pretty common to see but it won’t translate into Money for you .  You MUST have motivated sellers to get smoking good deals . 

    Here’s my advise for what it’s worth . Do not look for Distressed properties  like most people do ! Instead look for motivated sellers ! They are the master key to success in this business . Find the person not the property 

  • Investor · Cape Coral, FL · Member since 2019 · 135 posts · 41 votes
    6y

    Depending on your county you should be able to pull absentee owners from the county site. If you don’t know how get a Va off Upwork that does for short money. Absentee is as good a place to start as any. Other typically easy ones are tax delinquent. High equity is always a good list as well, both absentee and owner occupied. Just make sure on high equity they have owned the property for an adequate amount of time or they most likely are not selling and you will just waste your time. 

    On driving for dollars..if you do it look for properties in rough shape with absentee owners. That works around here In my market, but it really is unique for different markets.

  • Specialist · Purcellville, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 841 votes
    6y

    @David Muscovalley,

    Motivation stacks.  If you get a list of out-of-state owners, or tax delinquent owners, or whatever else might be one motivation to selling, stack it.  For example, out-of-state owners might be interested in selling, or they might not be.  It's truly a hit or miss, and usually a miss.  But, if you go looking at these houses by D4D, and find the ones that are in distress and/or unoccupied, then you're finding the sellers who have stacked motivations.  The odds of them selling is going to increase with the more situations they might be facing.

  • Contractor · Fayetteville NC · Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    @Dan Sarao thanks for the advice and yeah when I’m D4D I typically look for those type of properties. Do a quick walk around and even speak with the neighbors about it

  • Contractor · Fayetteville NC · Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    @Barry Pekin thanks for your advice

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Wilton, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    Look what succesful business people are doing. 

    Find out what traits they all have in common.

    You will come to find that everyone that is succesful, that has money to do what ever type of marketing they want, will simply have in place a system that simply works for them.

    Driving for dollars is not a system.

    This is what people do that do not have money to do it the right way.

    Not having money is not an insult or something to look down on, so do not be embarrassed not to have money. However, not having money is something you need to do something about!

    The big companies do Facebook ads and PPC.

    Start looking into that!

  • Specialist · Purcellville, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 841 votes
    6y

    @David Muscovalley,

    Definitely pay attention to @Jerryll Noorden.  The man's a genius!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Wilton, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Barry Pekin:

    @David Muscovalley,

    Definitely pay attention to @Jerryll Noorden.  The man's a genius!

     Gahhdamn it man.

    What did I tell you about calling me  a genius. Or a "man".

    I am OVER gaaadamn Lord Supreme Master Ninja SEO Ninja turtle Mutant Genius!

  • Specialist · Purcellville, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 841 votes
    6y

    @Jerryll Noorden,

    Yes, sir.  Forgive me sir!  

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Wilton, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Barry Pekin:

    @Jerryll Noorden,

    Yes, sir.  Forgive me sir!  

    HAAA!!

    you crack my up bud!

  • Contractor · Fayetteville NC · Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    @Jerryll Noorden thanks fam and no I’m never ashamed I know it cost money to make it and I’m using ads for my other companies as well so yeah with the right ads and good marketing it will work.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Wilton, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    Ads are guaranteed to produce leads....

    as long as you have 2 key factors in place.

    1) You need to target the right audience

    2) You need to have the right budget.

    Now you also however need to understand your ad platform so you work with the algorithm, not against it. Not many people understand facebook ads. I promise you this. Not many people at all!

  • Contractor · Fayetteville NC · Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    @Lanora Bowman I downloaded that last night but also have been using a one that’s similar to it just one or two features different

  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 229 posts · 229 votes
    6y

    @David Muscovalley

    I wouldn’t waste my time purchasing just “absentee leads” because being an absentee owner isn’t necessarily a strong enough motivation for a person to sell to you at a deep discount. At least not when that’s the only criteria you’re searching by.

    Combine absentee owner that’s out of state with vacant, and behind on taxes then you’ve got a motivated list. I recommend using Propstream. It’s $97/mo and they give you a free week trial to test it out. They give you access to 10,000 leads each month & you can filter your list’s criteria with a bunch of different options.

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2020 · 1 post · 0 votes
    6y

    @Duncan Hayes

    Hey, is that where you get majority of your leads from?

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    Rental Property Investor · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2018 · 717 posts · 555 votes
    6y

    @David Muscovalley I would purchase absentee owners but focus on out of state ones. This is more scalable than driving for dollars. When you get appointments drive the comps and check out the neighborhood and use that driving for driving for dollars.

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  • Multifamily Syndicator · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y
  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 229 posts · 229 votes
    6y

    @Wayne Croffitt no I do pull leads from Propstream occasionally but the dynamics of my business have changed a bit since I moved back to Michigan. FSBO ads are much easier to come by here, whether on FB Marketplace or even sites like Zillow. My leads are much more targeted these days and don't require a bunch of skip tracing to locate.

  • Jonathan GreeneBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Madison, NJ · Member since 2016 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    6y

    It depends on your level of experience. Everyone is quick to tell you what to buy in terms of leads, but if you don't know what to do with them, it won't help you. What experience do you have looking at RE? Have you viewed a lot of homes? Do you know what to look for? Driving for Dollars can be futile, but it's a great way to learn neighborhoods and see if you are able to identify homes that will get renovated. And it's free, besides gas. This might help - https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/10015/88489-real-estate-research-on-the-cheap-driving-for-dollars

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