We are under contract on a house that will be used as an STR. Our loan deadline is tomorrow (Monday). We finally received the DSCR ratio terms on Friday. Long story short, they are not including the unconforming basement bedrooms in their anlaysis (which is literally just the general # that Airdna pulls up). This means we are going to have to go with a higher rate with worse terms and more points. We are super pissed off. The actual appraisal of the house came in over what we are paying - but that appraisal DID have the legal description as a 2 Bed. 1.5 bath so this is what they put into airdna. It's actually a 5 BR, 2.5 bath. The house is 3000 sq feet and we chose this lender because they said they did a deep use analysis (not just do a 1 second search on airdna w/ the legal description from the appraisal). Obviously we are going to put in egress windows in the BR's in the basement (to make them comforming) and finish off the 1 bathroom that is in bad shape due to water line replacement (which I guess is why the appraiser didn't count it) but we feel totally taken advantage of. I spent soooooo much time talking to lenders to find out their process and how the ratio would be calculated. They totally lied to us and didn't have anyone with a brain even think through it. This isn't our first rodeo and the other house we have in this area is just up the street and is our best performing of our portfolio - but 1/3 of the size of this new house. We think the sellers would be open to an extension if we can make something happen. We would even go with another lender if it's possible (and suck up and pay the 2nd appraisal, etc). I guess I'm asking if there's another way around this that we are not thinking about... we even thought about getting a hard $ loan for a couple months in order to close, do the egress windows and finish the bathroom, and then refi into a DSCR (with a dif lender) but I don't think rates are going to be as good as the rate we are getting now. Doesn't look they are going in the direction we need them to go. Ugh.
Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
2mo
If they are not conforming then they are not going to be counted. So while appraisal may be higher income could be lower which impacts the DSCR ratio
what most people don't realize is DSCR loans get orginiated and sold to institutions and or securitized so the underwriting box is not flexible and very rigid. What makes it challenging is many times the underwriter is corresponding the loan to sell to someone bigger and will try and make everything work when it probably doesn't which leads to these frustrations / issues.
can you go with greater down payment to get back to the old terms? Also was there any rate lock as rates have gone up over past month that also could be impacting rates
Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
2mo
If they are not conforming then they are not going to be counted. So while appraisal may be higher income could be lower which impacts the DSCR ratio
what most people don't realize is DSCR loans get orginiated and sold to institutions and or securitized so the underwriting box is not flexible and very rigid. What makes it challenging is many times the underwriter is corresponding the loan to sell to someone bigger and will try and make everything work when it probably doesn't which leads to these frustrations / issues.
can you go with greater down payment to get back to the old terms? Also was there any rate lock as rates have gone up over past month that also could be impacting rates
Julie — your read on the two paths is right. Cleanest for a Monday deadline: a short bridge to close now, add egress + finish the bath so the beds conform, then DSCR refi once they count in the rent analysis — sized off actual STR income, not the gutted number. I can help with both and move on the deadline. DM me and I'll tell you straight what fits.
Julie — your read on the two paths is right. Cleanest for a Monday deadline: a short bridge to close now, add egress + finish the bath so the beds conform, then DSCR refi once they count in the rent analysis — sized off actual STR income, not the gutted number. I can help with both and move on the deadline. DM me and I'll tell you straight what fits.
We are under contract on a house that will be used as an STR. Our loan deadline is tomorrow (Monday). We finally received the DSCR ratio terms on Friday. Long story short, they are not including the unconforming basement bedrooms in their anlaysis (which is literally just the general # that Airdna pulls up). This means we are going to have to go with a higher rate with worse terms and more points. We are super pissed off. The actual appraisal of the house came in over what we are paying - but that appraisal DID have the legal description as a 2 Bed. 1.5 bath so this is what they put into airdna. It's actually a 5 BR, 2.5 bath. The house is 3000 sq feet and we chose this lender because they said they did a deep use analysis (not just do a 1 second search on airdna w/ the legal description from the appraisal). Obviously we are going to put in egress windows in the BR's in the basement (to make them comforming) and finish off the 1 bathroom that is in bad shape due to water line replacement (which I guess is why the appraiser didn't count it) but we feel totally taken advantage of. I spent soooooo much time talking to lenders to find out their process and how the ratio would be calculated. They totally lied to us and didn't have anyone with a brain even think through it. This isn't our first rodeo and the other house we have in this area is just up the street and is our best performing of our portfolio - but 1/3 of the size of this new house. We think the sellers would be open to an extension if we can make something happen. We would even go with another lender if it's possible (and suck up and pay the 2nd appraisal, etc). I guess I'm asking if there's another way around this that we are not thinking about... we even thought about getting a hard $ loan for a couple months in order to close, do the egress windows and finish the bathroom, and then refi into a DSCR (with a dif lender) but I don't think rates are going to be as good as the rate we are getting now. Doesn't look they are going in the direction we need them to go. Ugh.
What a stressful situation to deal with right before a contract deadline. You unfortunately ran into standard automated underwriting box restrictions. When a DSCR loan is slated to be packaged or securitized, the guidelines become completely rigid. If the appraisal's legal description states 2-bedroom, most institutional DSCR platforms will simply map that asset directly into an automated AirDNA scraper based strictly on that 2-bed count, ignoring the actual 3,000 sq ft physical footprint.
The Strategic Play Options:
Since forcing the current DSCR loan locks you into artificially deflated 2-bedroom short-term rental (STR) revenue and bad pricing terms, you have two primary structural paths out of this dilemma:
The Short-Term Bridge to DSCR Pivot (Most Scalable)
Step 1: Request a short closing extension from the seller. Pivot immediately to a short-term Bridge or Hard Money loan. Because bridge financing focuses heavily on asset value rather than rigid cash-flow ratios, these can often clear underwriting and close in 5 to 7 days.
Step 2: Execute the rehab work immediately upon closing. Install the code-compliant egress windows to make the basement bedrooms officially conforming, and finish out that second bathroom.
Step 3: Once completed, refi into a long-term 30-year DSCR loan. The appraiser will now officially certify it as a 5-bed, 2.5-bath property. Your new DSCR underwriting will be sized off a true 5-bedroom STR revenue projection (or actual performance history), which vastly offsets temporary bridge holding costs.
The Capital Injection Alternative
If an extension isn't possible and you are forced to close with the current lender on Monday, ask if they will allow a larger down payment to counteract the lower DSCR ratio. While this hurts your cash-on-cash return initially, it preserves the contract and your earnest money. You can still complete the renovations post-closing and pursue a cash-out refinance later once the property legally conforms as a 5-bedroom asset.
Maybe closing with no PPP now would be best in this situation.
Don't let this lazy automated underwriting derail a property that you already know has strong market demand based on your nearby portfolio. The bridge-to-DSCR route is a standard value-add playbook for a reason!
Lender · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 508 votes
2mo
Generally, the DSCR lender will go off what the appraiser puts on the appraisal report. The appraiser gets his information about the property from the county about what is permitted and what the zoning is.
A potential option is a bridge loan which will have higher rates. Important to consider a bridge loan will generally have more costs and a higher rate and also to factor in that you will be paying closing fees such as Title, lender fees etc twice- once on the bridge loan and again when you refinance out of it to longer term financing. Happy to connect to discuss further.
Lender · Denver, CO · Member since 2017 · 160 posts · 72 votes
2mo
Julie, sorry you are in this position. That is nerve racking to receive terms so late in the game. I am in Denver and own multiple STRs myself. What I am not following is if they are approaching this strictly as DSCR or are in fact doing this as an STR DSCR loan. For permitting only conforming bedrooms will be included, so I am not sure if you are in the metro or outlying counties. It seems currently there are non-conforming bedrooms so if the three bedrooms and add'l baths are below grade they may be in the room count. But I would imagine your lender reviewed the appraisal with your questions. Hard money may be needed to get around the non-conforming bedroom situation. Although it all begins with which program they used. Unfortunately AirDnA is garbage in garbage out. So STRs do in fact take a different level of knowledge and details.
We are under contract on a house that will be used as an STR. Our loan deadline is tomorrow (Monday). We finally received the DSCR ratio terms on Friday. Long story short, they are not including the unconforming basement bedrooms in their anlaysis (which is literally just the general # that Airdna pulls up). This means we are going to have to go with a higher rate with worse terms and more points. We are super pissed off. The actual appraisal of the house came in over what we are paying - but that appraisal DID have the legal description as a 2 Bed. 1.5 bath so this is what they put into airdna. It's actually a 5 BR, 2.5 bath. The house is 3000 sq feet and we chose this lender because they said they did a deep use analysis (not just do a 1 second search on airdna w/ the legal description from the appraisal). Obviously we are going to put in egress windows in the BR's in the basement (to make them comforming) and finish off the 1 bathroom that is in bad shape due to water line replacement (which I guess is why the appraiser didn't count it) but we feel totally taken advantage of. I spent soooooo much time talking to lenders to find out their process and how the ratio would be calculated. They totally lied to us and didn't have anyone with a brain even think through it. This isn't our first rodeo and the other house we have in this area is just up the street and is our best performing of our portfolio - but 1/3 of the size of this new house. We think the sellers would be open to an extension if we can make something happen. We would even go with another lender if it's possible (and suck up and pay the 2nd appraisal, etc). I guess I'm asking if there's another way around this that we are not thinking about... we even thought about getting a hard $ loan for a couple months in order to close, do the egress windows and finish the bathroom, and then refi into a DSCR (with a dif lender) but I don't think rates are going to be as good as the rate we are getting now. Doesn't look they are going in the direction we need them to go. Ugh.
You have some pretty solid responses here and I think your story really sheds some insight for other investors to choose the right lending partner 1st, rather than to chase the rates and fees to the bottom.
STRs are very lender specific. Some lenders will use AirDNA for rental income, others will use Actual STR rents, some will use the STR analysis provided by the appraiser, some lenders will use the lower of all 3, others will use the higher of all 3...
Most lenders will base their opinion of value on the appraisal report. However if for whatever reason the value was inflated by an appraiser, the appraiser cannot justify the value with solid comps, or the value does not pass a secondary desktop appraisal, most lenders will question and/or cut value..
What terms will make the deal work? Start there and then ask the following questions to pre-qualify lenders:
1. On STRs, what income will you use to qualify? Is there an expense factor? Do you use the lower or higher of market rent/AirDNA
2. What is your max LTV & Minimum DSCR?
3. Is the appraisal ordered by an AMC or an in-house appraiser?
4. Is there a CDA required to pass value?
5. Do you allow appraisal transfers?
6. Do you disclose and lock your loans? (VERY IMPORTANT)
7. If terms change during the process (value comes lower, rent comes lower, credit score is lower) do you re-disclose? (very important)
8. Check reviews. Look at the negative ones as well and make sure you address it over the phone.
9. Any quotes should be IN WRITING. hold them accountable.
That being said, I think this strategy only makes the most sense as a bridge purchase and a refinance afterwards. It seems like there is work needed on the property and it might help your refi appraisal once all is said and done. Especially if it appraised more than what you are currently buying for.
My recommendation is to find a bridge lender, that doesn't have a prepayment penalty and can close quickly, then refinance into a DSCR loan.
This gives you the flexibility to vet lenders with time, rather than rush and work with someone that is not the best..
Lender · MD · Member since 2025 · 203 posts · 83 votes
2mo
I'd be frustrated too, especially if you specifically asked how they handled DSCR calculations before moving forward. One thing I'd want to understand is whether this is a lender policy or simply how the appraisal and rent analysis were interpreted. Some lenders have different guidelines around nonconforming bedrooms and how much they'll rely on market data versus the legal property description, so it may not be the same everywhere.
If the sellers are willing to grant an extension, I’d seriously consider getting a second opinion before accepting significantly worse terms. Paying for another appraisal or starting over with a different lender can be expensive, but it may still be the better financial decision if you’re planning to hold the property for years. Your idea of completing the egress windows and refinancing later could work too, but I’d compare the total cost of that approach against the cost of extending and finding a lender whose methodology better matches the property’s actual income potential.
Did the lender explain whether this decision was based on their own DSCR guidelines, or was it entirely driven by the appraisal and AirDNA analysis?
Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
2mo
This is sadly a time and time again outcome for these new very aggressive STR lenders that pop into the market with terms that somehow beat everyone else...almost always ends up like this
Banker · MA · Member since 2026 · 120 posts · 33 votes
2mo
Chris nailed the core issue. DSCR loans aren't portfolio products at most shops. They're originated to be sold or securitized, so the underwriting guidelines are set by whoever is buying the paper, not the loan officer sitting across from you. That creates a dynamic where the LO sometimes tries to fit a square peg into a round hole rather than just telling the borrower upfront that the deal doesn't fit the box. That's where the bait-and-switch feeling comes from. It's not always bad faith; sometimes the file genuinely looked workable at submission and then an appraiser's rent schedule came in below market, or a lease had non-conforming terms, and the DSCR slipped below the floor. By then the borrower is weeks in and frustrated.
On your questions: yes, a larger down payment can sometimes fix it. If the DSCR is borderline, buying down the LTV gets the ratio back above the threshold because the payment drops. Some programs require a minimum DSCR of 1.0, others 1.1, others 1.2, so there's not one universal answer, but the math usually works in the borrower's favor if they have the capital. As for the rate lock, that's worth a direct conversation with the lender. If the lock expired or was never locked to begin with, current rates could absolutely be changing the payment and therefore the DSCR calculation. Those two things together, lower-than-expected rent schedule and higher rates, can turn a deal that looked fine 60 days ago into a deal that doesn't close.
One thing worth knowing: there are DSCR equity lines available now too, for investors who already own rental property and want to pull equity without going through the personal income qualification process. Same concept, qualify on the property's cash flow rather than W-2s or tax returns. Useful for investors who keep getting stuck on the income documentation side.
The bigger lesson for anyone going into a DSCR deal is to pressure-test the rent schedule before you're deep in the process. If the appraiser's market rent comes in below what you modeled, you want to know that early.
We are under contract on a house that will be used as an STR. Our loan deadline is tomorrow (Monday). We finally received the DSCR ratio terms on Friday. Long story short, they are not including the unconforming basement bedrooms in their anlaysis (which is literally just the general # that Airdna pulls up). This means we are going to have to go with a higher rate with worse terms and more points. We are super pissed off. The actual appraisal of the house came in over what we are paying - but that appraisal DID have the legal description as a 2 Bed. 1.5 bath so this is what they put into airdna. It's actually a 5 BR, 2.5 bath. The house is 3000 sq feet and we chose this lender because they said they did a deep use analysis (not just do a 1 second search on airdna w/ the legal description from the appraisal). Obviously we are going to put in egress windows in the BR's in the basement (to make them comforming) and finish off the 1 bathroom that is in bad shape due to water line replacement (which I guess is why the appraiser didn't count it) but we feel totally taken advantage of. I spent soooooo much time talking to lenders to find out their process and how the ratio would be calculated. They totally lied to us and didn't have anyone with a brain even think through it. This isn't our first rodeo and the other house we have in this area is just up the street and is our best performing of our portfolio - but 1/3 of the size of this new house. We think the sellers would be open to an extension if we can make something happen. We would even go with another lender if it's possible (and suck up and pay the 2nd appraisal, etc). I guess I'm asking if there's another way around this that we are not thinking about... we even thought about getting a hard $ loan for a couple months in order to close, do the egress windows and finish the bathroom, and then refi into a DSCR (with a dif lender) but I don't think rates are going to be as good as the rate we are getting now. Doesn't look they are going in the direction we need them to go. Ugh.
@Julie Hill That's a frustrating situation, especially this close to closing. Since the issue seems to be how the property is being underwritten rather than the value itself, it may be worth getting a second opinion from another investor lender if timing allows. Different lenders can interpret appraisal details and DSCR eligibility differently, so I'd make a few calls before giving up on the deal. Hope you're able to find a workable solution.
Hi Julie, sorry to hear this and unfortunately not that unusual. When solely relying on AirDNA, it makes it hard to find true values. What you need is a lender that can instruct the appraiser to do a short term rental analysis. This will allow the appraiser to more accurately determine the market rent and not just base it off of bed/bath count. Happy to connect to discuss further.
Cypress, Orange County · Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 2 votes
2mo
I think the true underlying problem was mentioned, but needed to be further addressed. Both the appraiser and the loan will review what the county recorded the property as, so this needs to be updated and addressed. There are a lot of great suggestions on how to move forward past the loan and I hope you were successful.
If you have succeeded in getting your financing, then I wouldn't change the county recording of the property as this may increase taxes (they would most likely reassess the house, but that depends on the state). I would wait until I was prepared to sell the property to get it properly recorded. Otherwise take the time to get it set properly for your loan.
CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
2mo
Julie, I'd be frustrated too, especially if the lender told you upfront they were doing a deep-use analysis and then based the DSCR on something materially different right before the loan deadline.
The first thing I'd ask for is the lender's written DSCR calculation and program guideline showing exactly what rental-income source they are allowed to use. A traditional Form 1007 is based on monthly market rent, and Fannie Mae specifically notes that even when a lender requests a 1007 for an STR, the appraiser supports the indicated rent with monthly rental comparables. DSCR programs are lender-specific, though, so another lender may have an STR program that accepts different income documentation or analysis.
With your deadline this close, I'd get a second DSCR lender looking at the file immediately and ask specifically how they underwrite STR income on a property without operating history. I'd compare the cost of switching, including another appraisal and possible closing delay, against taking the current higher rate and refinancing later. I'd also confirm whether the bedrooms being counted differently affects only the rent analysis or creates any appraisal, insurance, or permitting issues.
Since this will be an STR, I'd also think beyond the financing. Once the property is placed in service, cost segregation may accelerate depreciation, but the real tax benefit depends on whether you materially participate and can actually use the losses. Our STR planning materials specifically emphasize that cost-seg losses can be nonpassive when the applicable STR and material-participation requirements are met; otherwise losses may be suspended.
I wouldn’t let sunk appraisal costs force you into a materially worse loan without first getting another lender’s eyes on the deal.
