Des Moines · Member since 2022 · 9 posts · 3 votes
Hello, I'm new to investing and I currently have a house hack in the beaverdale area. I am wanting to do BRRRR and or flipping. I recently completed a new developer program through the Polk County Housing. I'm looking to connect with local investors willing mentor me on this journey. i'm stuck and don't really know what step on strategy to get moving. I am very tenacious and willing to do whatever it takes to get this vision out of my head and Infront of me! Someone help me from drowning lol. I do have some capital that can be deployed!
Tyrone, the fastest way out of analysis paralysis is to shrink the decision. You don't need to pick BRRRR or flipping forever, just pick the first deal.
Here's how I'd sequence it. First, figure out your buying power. Know how much capital you can deploy and what a lender will do on top of it, because that sets your price range before you look at a single house. Second, pick a price range and two or three neighborhoods in Des Moines you know well, and analyze every deal that hits them as both a flip and a BRRRR. The numbers will usually tell you which one it is.
For a first one, a light cosmetic rehab in a neighborhood with lots of recent sales beats a big project with a bigger upside. Fewer surprises, easier comps, faster exit either way.
And keep the house hack in mind as an asset. If it has equity and stays rented, it's both a reserve cushion and proof of experience when you apply for financing.
Full disclosure, I'm a lender, so I talk to a lot of people right at this starting point.
Tyrone, the fastest way out of analysis paralysis is to shrink the decision. You don't need to pick BRRRR or flipping forever, just pick the first deal.
Here's how I'd sequence it. First, figure out your buying power. Know how much capital you can deploy and what a lender will do on top of it, because that sets your price range before you look at a single house. Second, pick a price range and two or three neighborhoods in Des Moines you know well, and analyze every deal that hits them as both a flip and a BRRRR. The numbers will usually tell you which one it is.
For a first one, a light cosmetic rehab in a neighborhood with lots of recent sales beats a big project with a bigger upside. Fewer surprises, easier comps, faster exit either way.
And keep the house hack in mind as an asset. If it has equity and stays rented, it's both a reserve cushion and proof of experience when you apply for financing.
Full disclosure, I'm a lender, so I talk to a lot of people right at this starting point.
Tyrone, the drowning feeling usually comes from trying to pick a strategy before you've picked a house. The thing that actually sinks a first BRRRR or flip isn't the strategy. It's a rehab that turns out bigger than the budget.
- Sort every house you look at into two piles: cosmetic (paint, floors, fixtures, kitchen) and systems (roof, sewer, electrical, foundation, water in the basement). For a first deal, stay in the cosmetic pile.
- At every showing, check the same few things: the basement for water lines, white crusty residue, or cracks; the age of the panel, furnace, and water heater; and the roof. Ask about a sewer scope on any older house. Those are the spots where first budgets blow up.
- Before you close, get contractor bids broken out line by line, not one total. A single number is hard to check, and it hides what's been left out.
- Keep a real contingency. Older houses almost always have something behind the walls that nobody priced.
You'll learn more walking ten houses in Beaverdale with that list than from another month of research. Run the numbers on each one both ways, like Cat said, and the right first deal will start to stand out.
Tyrone, the paralysis usually breaks when you stop picking a strategy and start underwriting houses. A strategy doesn't make a deal — the numbers do. Set a buy box and run every property through it. Mine is simple: single-family under $100K, rent that clears the 1% rule, ARV $180K to $265K after rehab, and a refi that works at 70 to 80% LTV. If a house fits, it's a BRRRR. If it doesn't fit, no strategy saves it. You already have a house hack and capital to deploy, so your bottleneck isn't knowledge, it's deal flow. Spend the week looking at houses, not strategies, and let the box make the decision.
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Hello, I'm new to investing and I currently have a house hack in the beaverdale area. I am wanting to do BRRRR and or flipping. I recently completed a new developer program through the Polk County Housing. I'm looking to connect with local investors willing mentor me on this journey. i'm stuck and don't really know what step on strategy to get moving. I am very tenacious and willing to do whatever it takes to get this vision out of my head and Infront of me! Someone help me from drowning lol. I do have some capital that can be deployed!
Hi, you need to set your goals so you will know if you're going in the right direction. Your background and skill set are important. By goals, I mean "Why are you getting into property investing". Since there are so many choices, it no wonder that it's a bit intimidating. Have a phone call with a couple of different people, let them ask the pertinent questions and if nothing else, it helps to talk through options to settle the choices.
Tyrone, the one piece I haven't seen in this thread yet: line up your exit financing before you buy, not after.
If you buy to flip and it doesn't sell, or you decide to keep it as a rental, the takeout is a DSCR refinance — it qualifies on the property's rent with no personal-income docs, and the version I use has no seasoning requirement, so you don't have to sit and wait out a clock before you can refinance. Knowing that exit exists before you close changes which deals you can say yes to, because you're not stuck if the flip plan falls through.
So when you're running numbers both ways, run the refinance side too: finished rent, all-in payment, and whether the refi works at the value you'll actually get. If the flip numbers work but the refi numbers don't, that's a deal to pass on for a first one. Happy to run the takeout math on a real Beaverdale example — Dan
Tyrone, feeling stuck while you're this fired up is rough, but your energy is honestly the hard part and you already have it. Finishing that program and house hacking means you're further along than you feel, so maybe just chat with a couple of local landlords over coffee and see what they say....
Since you are not starting at ground zero because of the house hack you have done and the capital that you have, I would advise you to choose one of the methods and start looking for deals in Des Moines by getting in touch with some investors and contractors there.
Tyrone, you're actually in a better starting position than you probably think. Having a house hack, some capital ready to deploy, and already getting education in the space gives you a solid foundation.
I'd start by deciding whether your first goal is to build a rental portfolio or build an active flipping business. The numbers, financing, time commitment, and even tax treatment can be very different.
If you go the flip route and plan to do it consistently, I'd also think about the business structure early. Depending on your profit and volume, an S-Corp can be worth evaluating for the active flip business.
Don't feel like you need to figure out the entire portfolio right now. Find one strategy, underwrite a lot of deals, and get the first one right.
Feel free to DM me, I’d be happy to send over a few resources that might be helpful.
Hi Tyrone, analysis paralysis is really common, and the fix is usually picking one strategy and one set of numbers you trust. Since you already have a house hack, a BRRRR lets you keep recycling the same capital: buy with short-term or hard money, rehab, rent it, then refinance into a long-term loan (often DSCR, which qualifies on the rent instead of your income). The key is buying low enough that the after-repair value supports a refi that pulls most of your cash back out. A flip gets you cash back faster, but you pay more in taxes and give up the long-term asset. I'd run the same deal both ways before deciding. Happy to walk through the financing side and your numbers on a quick call, my direct line and email are on my profile.
@Tyrone Avant Welcome, and congrats on the house hack and the developer program! Cat and James are right that the house picks the strategy, and Kyle named what sinks most first deals: a rehab that turns out bigger than planned. On our renovation jobs in Switzerland, what saved the numbers was pricing the rehab line by line, plus a separate buffer for what usually hides behind the walls. If it helps, post one Des Moines house you're looking at, even one you've already passed on, and I'll walk through it with you right here: a line-by-line first-pass rehab range and how it looks as a flip and as a BRRRR. The Des Moines folks here can correct me on local labor costs, which makes it even better. Which house goes first?
@Tyrone Avant you're further along than you think with the house hack already done. That's pretty close to how I started. I lived in my first place and renovated it, and that equity is what funded the next one. Most of what I built after that was BRRRR. What helped me get moving was picking one strategy and one area and underwriting a lot of deals there, even ones I had no plan to buy. After a while you start recognizing a good one fast. Local meetups are a good place to find a mentor too, since you get to see who's actually doing deals in Des Moines. Best of luck getting started.
Tyrone, let's connect. A house hack and some capital is a better spot than you're giving yourself credit for. Most people stuck between BRRRR and flipping are really deciding whether they want cash now or something they keep, and once that's clear the first step gets a lot easier. I know some good people you'd get a lot out of talking to, happy to introduce you.
I'm a mortgage broker. One thing that helps new BRRRR investors a lot: line up your exit loan before you buy. Fix-and-flip/bridge lenders will usually fund part of the purchase and most of the rehab based on after-repair value, then you refi into a DSCR loan once it's rented. Ask the DSCR lender up front about seasoning and whether they need a lease in place or will use market rent. Your house hack equity could also fund a down payment through a cash-out or a 2nd lien, so run those numbers before looking for partners.