How can I convince my partner to get real estate

How can I convince my partner to get real estate

Member since 2021 · 2 posts · 1 vote

I have been interested in real estate for many years. My problem is, my partner is not. To be honest, she does not like the idea of it at all. This year we decided we would look to buy a property as we had saved up enough money plus more left in the bank for savings, but throughout the whole process we were always butting heads whether we should even to it or not. 

I asked her to take some time to think about if she really wants to do it, as there was not much point moving forward if we (she) were not 100% committed. Now she has came back to say she does not want to do it (for now) and I need to respect this decision. What I would like to is to provide her with a good book / podcast or otherwise, to inspire her.  

The problem is - That standard arguments don't work. She is not money orientated at all, she is more towards being a hippy. Therefore financial freedom and future financial security do not mean anything to her.  She says she thinks she would want to do it one day, but just now she is not ready. 

Any advice..?

1Reply
21 views

Most Popular Reply

Realtor · Hanover Twp, PA · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
4y

@Asher Richardson, my advice is that YOU do it and SHE doesn't! Just because she is your partner in life doesn't mean she has to be your partner in business.

If she wanted to start a hippy store would she be allowed to do so and run her own business without you being her partner running it? I think in many couple's cases the answer would be yes.

Tell her you want to start a business and that you want to take some seed money to get started. Start a single member LLC in your name, and guarantee any debt in your name. Run it as a business and when you can start taking some cash-flow/profits for yourself show her and let her share the benefits.

Beyond talking to her about seed money, you really don't need anything from her directly.

See this reply in the discussion

13 Replies

Jump to latestLatest
  • Realtor · Hanover Twp, PA · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson, my advice is that YOU do it and SHE doesn't! Just because she is your partner in life doesn't mean she has to be your partner in business.

    If she wanted to start a hippy store would she be allowed to do so and run her own business without you being her partner running it? I think in many couple's cases the answer would be yes.

    Tell her you want to start a business and that you want to take some seed money to get started. Start a single member LLC in your name, and guarantee any debt in your name. Run it as a business and when you can start taking some cash-flow/profits for yourself show her and let her share the benefits.

    Beyond talking to her about seed money, you really don't need anything from her directly.

  • Jaron WallingPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson Are you guys married? There are many goals in life and financial freedom and security is just one of them. Your partner obviously holds that goal to lower a standard than yourself. What I'd do is lead by example or make it "her idea" that this investment is a wise choice. That's easy to type into a forum and harder in real life but it's not impossible. Everyone has interests and something that fires them up! Maybe it's not REI (yet) but it's could be in the future.

    Best case you start listening to the podcasts or some Dave Ramsey. He is pro real estate. The majority of what they preach is good information and helpful to the mass consumer. Once you BOTH BUILD some financial I.Q, Papa Dave becomes less valuable. Maybe your partner has never even heard of him. I know you can't force feed investing onto people. My fiancé is slooowwwly getting into all this real estate stuff. We work on home improvement projects together and we enjoy the relationship building aspect of it. 

  • Investor · Huntsville, AL · Member since 2012 · 50 posts · 50 votes
    4y

    @Kevin Sobilo, @ Asher Richardson,  you guys are are straight out of my own heart ( see my comment about advice to my younger self in a different post). Sometimes, you have to be selfish and go after your goals. It is no guarantee that you will succeed in real estate investing. Do your homework, present books, videos, case histories to your spouse/partner and show them the benefits of real estate investing and request their support. If they refuse, as stated earlier by Mr. Kevin Sobilo, you have a right to pursue your goals and dreams , don't let anyone squash them, it can be up to you to succeed or fail. Ideally, you both could work together to achieve goals in the real estate game, but if not, you do your investing the best that you can ( hopefully, it will grow) and let her do her non -investing/self discovery on her own. One thing is guranteed, if you never try at something, you can't count it as being successful at it. 

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson Good thing you guys are only partners so far. You are right, getting into RE is the best way to financial security and better for regular guys. So she is not into RE, but if she is a good partner, she should not mind if you were to get into it, right? As a matter of fact, she should support you in the pursuit of your dreams and goals.

    So move ahead with your plan to buy a piece of property and see what she does. She either support syou or tries to shoot you down. A partner who would not at least support another is no good partner at all and you may get an early warning sign.

    Once again, don't ask her permission or help, just ask for moral support. And when you do buy something, do NOT put any part of it in her name.......just have this be all about you.

  • Member since 2021 · 217 posts · 190 votes
    4y

    Want to convince her? show her a viable business plan. Show her on paper the deal you are proposing, how it will profit based off more than just "future appreciation", and do this with conservative underwriting. You might be surprised how money oriented she can be if you show her an actual, viable path with dollars and a timeline. A book or podcast without a viable, well-vetted deal is no legitimate substitute.

    If you can't do that, then she might be right. Probably save you potential serious financial grief as well.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Jaron Walling:

    Best case you start listening to the podcasts or some Dave Ramsey. He is pro real estate.

    She won't like Dave. He is pretty traditional and conservative. Instant turn-off for an airy fairy hippie chick.....

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson focus on the "why" of REI, ie what financial success can do for the two of you. Money impacts most of life. Partners dream together, pursue life goals together and support one another. Surely she has some dreams and goals in life she wants to reach and pursue with you? If not, what is your "partnership" built on? Something to think about. Good luck!

  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson lots of upvotes to the post by @Account Closed

    Whenever I see this question, as he alluded to, I always wonder if the poster is asking from a place of financial strength.  Do you own or rent a primary?  When you said you would "look to buy," was it on a primary, or an investment?  If you bought a rental, would it jeopardize the purchase of a primary?  How much debt do you have?  Do you both have secure jobs in your area?  Would you move to invest?  Would you move for a job?  When you say you have "more left in the bank for savings," is it... $500?  12 months of living expenses? Enough to have reserves on a rental, PLUS a down payment on a property, PLUS living expenses?

  • Investor · Milwaukee - Mequon, WI · Member since 2010 · 5k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson you have to consider the possibility that she does not change her mind. I am going to say something you won't like: too many people end up marrying the person they happen to live with. I know I did and it did not end well, so let me tell you from personal experience.

    Remember the old tails where the price searches the country for the pricess? There is a message in there. Who you marry is probably the most important decision for your career. Possibly more important than which colledge you pick. Having someone who supports and pushes you vs someone who holds you back and seeds doubt.

    Best case you can convince her to step aside and let you do what you want to do. How will that look like? Every little issue that comes up (there will be many) you'll have to face it alone, because sharing it with your partner will result in I told you so. It will always be a rock in your shoe. 

    And your partner should be a source of strenght and support for everything you do in life. Once you understand the gravity of that you have to make a decision to leave one of these two things behind, it really comes down to what is more important to you.

  • Member since 2021 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    4y

    Hey all, thanks for all the great comments. It was awesome to read through all of them. 

    Yes we are married and have just over 60.000 saved, both with full time jobs earing and fine average wage. Ideally we would buy a place to live in it, but it is likely we want to move again at some point. Therefore, in my ideal world, we would just buy a small rental property to just get started in the property world and manage this until we are ready to have our own, keeping us flexible but also learning the ropes at the same time. As having our own property could take 10 years before we really decide to stay anywhere for a longer period of time (who knows, could be less, but could be longer as well) 

    Many a time I have tried to explain the future benefits, being able to work less at our jobs in the future, more time with our kids (that we do not yet have), being able to do more things that we want to do. But it seems to go in one ear and out the other. It does not help that all her friends are very similar to her and all (most) of my friends already have property and a benefiting from them. 

    It seems many of you think I should go and do it alone but this wouldn't work from her side, but also I wouldn't want to do this without her, as if we do not agree on it and it doesn't go well, it could be damaging to the relationship, which takes priority in this case.  She just says she needs time, the only thing I am worried about, is how long this time could take. Sure 6 months is nothing, but waiting 5 years is a long time. 

    Can anyone recommend a Podcast / Book / YouTube channel - that is a easy read / watch. No Big Dad Poor Dad, telling her that she will be rich if she doesn't and poor and miserable if she doesn't but just from average Joe or Jane, who talks about it in a nice and realistic way for her to follow. 

    Again, thanks for all the comments. 

  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson this is all very personal to you and your spouse, and so no one can really tell you what to do here.  I'll make one more comment - you seem to be talking in abstracts here ("more freedom").  Have you run any numbers?  Run some numbers.  Create a few scenarios - buying a primary first then a rental, a rental then a primary.  Waiting 2 years then buying.  Etc.  Maybe you'll surprise yourself.

    Also - waiting 5 years is not a long time.  It just feels like it because you're on BP, and everyone else is investing - because this is a forum for investors - but if you spend that 5 years learning and saving, you'll be ahead of the pack.  Good luck.

  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    @Asher Richardson, if money is not a motivating factor, then focus on her other goals.  She wants freedom, well how does owning a rental that makes you money each month sound to her.  Hiking the Inca trail without worrying about having the time off from work, or backpacking across Europe for 2 months, all while your bank account keeps growing.

    But you also have to remember that real estate is not the only path the to financial freedom.  I know investors with 8 figure and more net worth that have no real estate in their portfolio.  Many hedge fund managers are extremely wealthy and didn't make their money in real estate.  Real estate is one of many routes to creating financial freedom.  You want cash flow and the possibility of appreciation: https://www.fool.com/investing...

  • Joe S.Pro Member
    Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    If you and your live in are not serious enough about each other to get married what’s it matter anyways? Just saying…

Join the conversationCreate a free account to reply, vote on answers and follow this thread.