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I am heading to Florida for a month and would like to close on a deal if I can find the right one. what's the best areas for a rental to buy in for a LTR.
The bigger national PM companies are all starting to open up offices in those surrounding areas. These companies partner with larger institutional investors who spend a significant amount of money in market research. So, I pay close attention to where they're going.
I am heading to Florida for a month and would like to close on a deal if I can find the right one. what's the best areas for a rental to buy in for a LTR.
You can get much higher returns in other markets, But if you are only wanting FL then Cape Coral
I agree with Cape Coral. Deals to be found, but high rental demand and strong rents (even more so post-Hurricane Ian)
Well I need to change my comment as I spoke with my buddy who has a huge RE business in the cape. I posted why in another post, I will try and find it as I do not want to retype it all LOL . But the gist was high insurance and overpriced. It would be very difficult to get double digit net caps
I own a mortgage brokerage that solely focuses on real estate investors. I'd echo the above, buy along the I4 corridor between Orlando and Tampa. I also would look at places like Ocala, lot's of new builds and future appreciation. I recently bought a 2019 SFR in Ocala, my business partners and I just had to change the carpet and paint, and we were able to get it $60k under value (off-market marketing). It cash flows roughly $600 with a DSCR loan. Feel free to reach out if you need any advice.
It is interesting to watch the Real Estate industry develop in smaller cities around the country. The opening of offices by some of the bigger national PM companies signals that they are recognizing the potential of these expanding markets. With larger institutional investors conducting market research, it's clear that Real Estate opportunities are abundant and worth investing in. It's an exciting time for Real Estate investors!
I am heading to Florida for a month and would like to close on a deal if I can find the right one. what's the best areas for a rental to buy in for a LTR.
You can get much higher returns in other markets, But if you are only wanting FL then Cape Coral
Hey Bob. What other markets would you recommend. I am looking to make an investment (Single or Multi Family) with the intent of long term appreciation. Have a few single family homes in Bay Area but now looking outside. Any recommendations?
I am heading to Florida for a month and would like to close on a deal if I can find the right one. what's the best areas for a rental to buy in for a LTR.
You can get much higher returns in other markets, But if you are only wanting FL then Cape Coral
Hey Bob. What other markets would you recommend. I am looking to make an investment (Single or Multi Family) with the intent of long term appreciation. Have a few single family homes in Bay Area but now looking outside. Any recommendations?
100s of investors from Ca ( and around the world ) have been buying up all of the Cleveland markets for years . They used to get 20% +++ net caps based on cash purchase with all in pricing of 40- 65k. Now 10% or so with all in pricing of about 100k, still good. Its all about knowledge.
Tampa has good opportunity for cashflow with HIGH appreciation potential in the next 5-10yr. Feel free to reach out if you'd like to discuss more in depth as to why.
Ocala has plenty of good cashflow opportunity and no shortage of supply, should see some significant growth in the next few years due to its high traffic location and increasing industry.
Ocala, parts of Jacksonville, Palm Coast, Deltona, DeLand
What are yours specific goals for the investment?
thanks for sharing. other than jacksonville, which type of property is best in the other 4 areas for cashflow?
@Eric Tan For long term rental, I would target newly built or turnkey single family homes. (or something you can make turnkey).
Generally speaking for market deals in these areas, the Cash flow will likely be better with single family.
There are also turnkey builders that build and manage sell duplex(s) and quad(s) in these areas but in most cases prices are still pretty high leading to lower cash flow. They sell for a higher $ per sqft compared to single family because of the scarcity and the ability to trade off cap rates (which have compressed a ton over the past few years) leading to higher prices. Florida as a whole has a lack of small multi family (Duplex/triplex/quad) let alone newly built mostly because of zoning. Multi family land is valuable.
Because of this dynamic and with build costs leveling out, I am currently building some Duplexes. Im also considering renting one unit as a medium term 30-90 days to a professional tenant but I need to consider all things. Up to this point, the long term rental approach has worked well for me but I am interested in learning more about medium term rentals.'
@Jake Warren you're going there to buy- without doing any prior research?
Prepare to lose money...
no I'm down here to visit and also look into the markets and potentially buy if I found the right deal that makes sense. that's why I am asking for advice.
@Tom D. The main reason people come to Cape Coral is because we have more canals than anywhere else in the world. If you don't buy a property on the canal then you are risking lower appreciation and lower returns.
Adam - my comments were through the lens of an STR investor. My wife and I would love to have a home with a canal in Cape Coral. However, I have been told from other STR investors that paying more for a home with a canal doesn't cash flow as well as a home without. Simply because you are paying for a perk that is never used by an AirBnB'r. They would find lower rates down the street from a home without the canal from an owner that has a lower mortgage at their disposal. I get it - long term appreciation - a home on the canal will have higher equity in the end however not as attractive for an STR investor.
@Tom D. You have been advised wrong... I was also speaking through the lens of an STR investor. On STR's in the Cape, we get $450/night for canal homes and $250/night for dry lots. The book for a higher rate, have less vacancy, and the guests stay longer. Again, people come here for the canals... this is the draw.
I am glad to hear that. To clarify, it wasn't their advice - it was their experience as investors who owned both types in Cape Coral. One of them said that he could only count two instances when his renters used the dock in one year. Folks must be paying more for the view than for actually using a dock. I can't imagine someone would use a dock if they were staying less than a week. I certainly wouldn't haul a boat down from Indiana unless I was staying at least a week. AirDNA will confirm either way but I am glad to hear how your experience goes because that provides much greater optionality for the investor.
Local agent here in Tampa and wholesale in Jacksonville, Orlando and Tampa markets.
Many good points in previous replies, Tampa, st. Pete and Clearwater are all still very hot markets however investors are having an easier time negotiating/getting deals under contract with recent market shift.
I’m seeing a lot of regular folks getting priced out of these markets and investors are pushing north/south to find LTR deals that work, places like holiday, new port richey, Brandon/Bradenton.
Cap rates are still relatively low for multifamily and you’d need to look at value add plays to get above a 7-8 cap.
If you end up looking in the Tampa area send me a DM and I can help in your search.