How do you find the refinance numbers in a BRRRR strategy?

How do you find the refinance numbers in a BRRRR strategy?

Member since 2021 · 42 posts · 7 votes

Hello BP family! I been crunching numbers on a potential BRRRR strategy for a SFM. I am stuck on how would I found out what the refinance numbers would be in the refinance step of BRRRR. The potential deal is buy for $100k. Rehab cost is $50k. ARV in that area is $230k conservatively. Rents are going $1400-1700 in same neighborhood. How would I know refinance numbers after rents. Any advice and feedback would be highly appreciated ! Thank you BP Family!

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Nicholas L.Pro Member
Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
10mo

@Marcos Cardenas

if you want details on a potential loan, just call a broker.  but you should be able to run the numbers yourself.  just use a mortgage calculator and the actual costs for taxes and insurance, etc.

the rent is irrelevant... the refinance will be based on the ARV.

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  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    10mo

    @Marcos Cardenas

    if you want details on a potential loan, just call a broker.  but you should be able to run the numbers yourself.  just use a mortgage calculator and the actual costs for taxes and insurance, etc.

    the rent is irrelevant... the refinance will be based on the ARV.

    • Member since 2021 · 42 posts · 7 votes
      10mo

      @Nicholas L. Hello Nicholas thank you for the feedback ! Okay thank you very much. I will use the ARV and mortgage calculator.

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    10mo

    You buy for $100k, add $50k, if the bank agrees the ARV is $230k they'll probably refinance you at 75% or $172,500. You win, you have an extra $22k in your pocket. If you want more cash flow you simply refinance for only $150k.

    You already know the insurance and property taxes as you’re already paying them before the refinance. The rest of the payment = is determined by interest rate, mortgage amount and length of loan. 

    • Member since 2021 · 42 posts · 7 votes
      10mo

      @Bill B. Hello Bill, thanks for the kind feedback ! Does the bank inspect the property to find the ARV? Thank you!

  • Alfath AhmedBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10mo
    Quote from @Marcos Cardenas:

    Hello BP family! I been crunching numbers on a potential BRRRR strategy for a SFM. I am stuck on how would I found out what the refinance numbers would be in the refinance step of BRRRR. The potential deal is buy for $100k. Rehab cost is $50k. ARV in that area is $230k conservatively. Rents are going $1400-1700 in same neighborhood. How would I know refinance numbers after rents. Any advice and feedback would be highly appreciated ! Thank you BP Family!


     This is very simple. You can also plug into chatgpt and they can make an entire outline. I'd plug your prompt in. 

    Purchase: $100k 

    Rehab: $50k 

    ARV: $230k

    You are buying the deal at a great value already (assuming your ARV is correct and rehab budget is actually $50k, it always goes overbudget btw).

    $230,0000 *0.70 = $161,000 *0.985 = $158,585 (The bank will give you this value, subtract closing costs 2.5% from here for closing costs). I am assuming 70/30 from the bank.

    True refinance value $158,585 - $100,000 - $50,000 - ($100k * 0.025 = $2,500) = $6,085

    You should be able to pull cash out of the deal if your numbers are correct.

    • Member since 2021 · 42 posts · 7 votes
      10mo

      @Alfath Ahmed hello Alfath! Thank you for the kind feedback ! I will go over my numbers again especially budgeting for renovations. And thanks for the tip on ChatGPT ! Do you recommend also getting some refinance numbers from a few different lenders ? Thank you! 

  • Vijay FriedmanBusiness Member
    Miami, FL · Member since 2026 · 766 posts · 124 votes
    5mo
    Quote from @Marcos Cardenas:

    Hello BP family! I been crunching numbers on a potential BRRRR strategy for a SFM. I am stuck on how would I found out what the refinance numbers would be in the refinance step of BRRRR. The potential deal is buy for $100k. Rehab cost is $50k. ARV in that area is $230k conservatively. Rents are going $1400-1700 in same neighborhood. How would I know refinance numbers after rents. Any advice and feedback would be highly appreciated ! Thank you BP Family!

    @Marcos Cardenas
    You're usually working backward from the expected ARV and the refinance lender's max LTV. Once you estimate rents and operating expenses, it's also worth checking whether the projected DSCR supports the loan amount you're targeting. The refinance proceeds and cash left in the deal can look very different depending on those assumptions.

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