HUD rejecting deal - Appraisal came back too high!!?

HUD rejecting deal - Appraisal came back too high!!?

Investor · Johns Island, SC · Member since 2014 · 120 posts · 41 votes

Has anyone had HUD reject a deal because the appraisal came in higher than the accepted offer?

I accepted a counter on a REO at 133K and they are now saying the offer is conditionally accepted because the bank's appraisal came back higher than the offer price. They say the "ultimate decision lies with HUD".

While I have signed on their paper they have not formally ratified the contract and want to know if I am comfortable proceeding knowing this contingency.

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Clarks Summit, PA · Member since 2013 · 66 posts · 30 votes
10y

@John Vietmeyer That shouldn't be an issue, it would be a problem for you if the appraisal came back lower than your offer as that means you would have to put money from your pocket in the deal. Who is saying that, the asset manager? 

What i am curious is how/why an appraisal was done before a contract was signed?

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  • Clarks Summit, PA · Member since 2013 · 66 posts · 30 votes
    10y

    @John Vietmeyer That shouldn't be an issue, it would be a problem for you if the appraisal came back lower than your offer as that means you would have to put money from your pocket in the deal. Who is saying that, the asset manager? 

    What i am curious is how/why an appraisal was done before a contract was signed?

  • Greg H.Pro Member
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    Broker/Flipper · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    10y

    Please explain in more detail as this could not be a HUD home that was bid on via HUDhomestore.com

  • Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2011 · 90 posts · 21 votes
    10y

    I never heard of this happening before. Who ordered the appraisal HUD or your lender?

  • Investor · Johns Island, SC · Member since 2014 · 120 posts · 41 votes
    10y

    Seller is adding a disclosure stating that the contract is subject to HUD approval. Indication is that this is because my accepted offer is below appraisal.

    I have not yet paid for an appraisal so anything they have must have been paid for by the bank. 

    The selling agent could not explain under what circumstance HUD would disapprove but I guess we will find out.

  • Greg H.Pro Member
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    Broker/Flipper · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    10y

    Something is missing here as this is not a HUD home. It could be a reverse mortgage foreclosure that is subject to different guidelines and dies not appear on HUDhomestore.

  • Investor · Johns Island, SC · Member since 2014 · 120 posts · 41 votes
    10y

    Greg - you are right. It has to do with a foreclosure resulting from a reverse mortgage.  

    My accepted contract is at 133k and the HUD appraisal is at 140k so hopefully I don't have to go through the appeals process.

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/real-estate/1239650-property-being-sold-subject-24-cfr-3.html

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    10y

    You should be good, with a RM the lender must sell for at least 95% of an FHA appraisal, and paying normal closing costs.

  • Investor · Johns Island, SC · Member since 2014 · 120 posts · 41 votes
    10y

    Greg - you are right. It has to do with a foreclosure resulting from a reverse mortgage.  

    My accepted contract is at 133k and the HUD appraisal is at 140k so hopefully I don't have to go through the appeals process.

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/real-estate/1239650-property-being-sold-subject-24-cfr-3.html

  • Investor · Johns Island, SC · Member since 2014 · 120 posts · 41 votes
    10y

    Quick update:

    I'm still waiting for a ratified contract. The seller accepted my offer which is 5K below the HUD appraised value, but I don't get a ratified contract until HUD has approved. It's been ~ 2 weeks and they will not provide any estimates on how much longer it could take.

    Has anyone else experience this?  I'm not sure if I am waiting in vein for this deal to be ratified.  I'm sure if they wait long enough someone will come in with a full price offer.

  • Investor · Johns Island, SC · Member since 2014 · 120 posts · 41 votes
    10y

    Took a little over 2 weeks but HUD approved the purchase 5k under the 140k asking price. It was a short sale foreclosure. I now have the ratified contract in hand and project #3 is getting underway.

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