Can an investor assume and FHA loan without applying?

Can an investor assume and FHA loan without applying?

Flipper/Rehabber · Saint Paul, MN · Member since 2016 · 120 posts · 98 votes

Hey Bigger Pockets,

Can a investor assume an FHA loan without having to apply or deal with the bank ? I have a motivated seller of an off marker triplex who owes 145K. Needs roughly 125k, rents are $1250-1300 after rehab. Hard to say what the ARV would be as the subject is 3/1 each unit with 3,710 SQ FT with no triplex comps but a updated fourplex literally two houses down that recently sold for $410,000. My Plans is the BRRR strategy but worried about the end appraisal as my last brrr appraised 30k less than I expected it would. So I am trying to be very conservative and figure out the best method with this one. Any suggestions or input is appreciated, thank you!

Saint Paul, Minnesota, Twin cities

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Tim SwierczekPro Member
Lender · White Bear Township, MN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
8y

@Rashad K. No all assumable loans require that you qualify.

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  • Tim SwierczekPro Member
    Lender · White Bear Township, MN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Rashad K. No all assumable loans require that you qualify.

  • Wholesaler / Investor · Hastings, MN · Member since 2015 · 58 posts · 32 votes
    8y

    Are you asking about an Assumption in the normal way or are you talking about doing a subject to?

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    You would need to provide more information on the area to get any help with the appraised value.  If an updated 4 plex sold for $410, figure the new owner paid roughly $100k per unit.  Under that assumption yours would be worth around $300-325k when finished.  This could be far off if your have more bedrooms, etc.

    If you have the ability to complete a $125k renovation I would assume you wouldn't have an issue getting financed.  You would need a down payment in addition to the reno cost however.

  • Todd SolbergPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Byron, MN · Member since 2015 · 71 posts · 34 votes
    8y

    Are there assumable loans out there anymore? Banks tell me they don't exist whenever I apply for a mortgage. 

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    8y
    All fha and va are assumable, with qualification of the buyer.
  • Investor · Minnetonka, MN · Member since 2016 · 123 posts · 86 votes
    8y

    @Rashad K. Look into taking over the debt "subject-to" as @Sean Wait mentioned.

    I'll bow to @Tim Swierczek's knowledge on assumables, but another tactic to consider is a "wrap mortgage".

    That is part of an owner-financed solution that leaves the existing debt in place (if the seller will allow!) but it is wrapped with another mortgage that pays the same amount each month to the seller so they can continue to make the payments to the original lender. (I'm sure someone will say this is illegal or won't work or will trigger the "due on sale" clause but it happens all the time.) A word of caution, though -- don't try this with a LOC. Lenders are extra touchy about those and you don't want the seller to keep drawing on it anyway so those need to be paid off.

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