Investment will require mass eviction of seniors!

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Hello to everyone,

I have an investment that I'm considering and would appreciate some feedback from someone who may have been in a similar spot.

Here are the details:


6plex, close to schools, transit and all the good stuff.  Smaller town with high rents and very low vacancy.

The current multi family is owned by a housing foundation in a smaller town (40,000 people) that has been subsidizing rents for seniors.  They will no longer will have this multi family subsidized and now must sell.  They have a clause in the contract that will forbid any rent increases or evictions for one year.   All of the people who currently live there are over 70 years old.  If one where to buy, evict, reno and rent, it will be a fantastic deal with a cap rate at 11.37% and a cash on cash return at 22.49%.  Of course those numbers are no brainers if it was a smooth transition, but im concerned with the optics.  Holding for one year at its current status wont cash flow, but that is of little concern.  Currently the unit is rather old (1970) and dated, so it will require a solid reno, which will "justify" the eviction.  In B.C. you can evict if a reno is required, renoviction.

Here are the after reno numbers in CND dollars:



Aquisition costs:

  • Purchase 460k
  • Closing costs 9k
  • Down payment 115k (25%)
  • 3.1% rate on a 30 year Am (no other loan cost)

Monthly expenses:

  • Management fee (use local handy man on hourly basis, handle rents and tennants on my own) $150/month
  • Property tax $336/month
  • Repairs and maintaince $435/month 
  • Insurance $120/month
  • Reserve $300/month

Rent Roll:

  • Rent 1k per unit, 6k/month
  • Vacancy 5% ($300/month)

Reno cost:

  • Renos 30k

ARV:

  • 650k (conservative)

ROI:

  • Cash flow $2,885.00
  • CoC 22.49% (including reno costs)
  • ROI 27.07%
  • Cap rate 11.37%

Looking for input, thoughts or similar experiances.  Of course the clause and then subsiquent eviction is my main concern.

Thanks to all who will provide their wisdom.

Jason

Originally posted by @Jason D. Lewis :

Hello to everyone,

I have an investment that I'm considering and would appreciate some feedback from someone who may have been in a similar spot.

Here are the details:


6plex, close to schools, transit and all the good stuff.  Smaller town with high rents and very low vacancy.

The current multi family is owned by a housing foundation in a smaller town (40,000 people) that has been subsidizing rents for seniors.  They will no longer will have this multi family subsidized and now must sell.  They have a clause in the contract that will forbid any rent increases or evictions for one year.   All of the people who currently live there are over 70 years old.  If one where to buy, evict, reno and rent, it will be a fantastic deal with a cap rate at 11.37% and a cash on cash return at 22.49%.  Of course those numbers are no brainers if it was a smooth transition, but im concerned with the optics.  Holding for one year at its current status wont cash flow, but that is of little concern.  Currently the unit is rather old (1970) and dated, so it will require a solid reno, which will "justify" the eviction.  In B.C. you can evict if a reno is required, renoviction.

Here are the after reno numbers in CND dollars:



Aquisition costs:

  • Purchase 460k
  • Closing costs 9k
  • Down payment 115k (25%)
  • 3.1% rate on a 30 year Am (no other loan cost)

Monthly expenses:

  • Management fee (use local handy man on hourly basis, handle rents and tennants on my own) $150/month
  • Property tax $336/month
  • Repairs and maintaince $435/month 
  • Insurance $120/month
  • Reserve $300/month

Rent Roll:

  • Rent 1k per unit, 6k/month
  • Vacancy 5% ($300/month)

Reno cost:

  • Renos 30k

ARV:

  • 650k (conservative)

ROI:

  • Cash flow $2,885.00
  • CoC 22.49% (including reno costs)
  • ROI 27.07%
  • Cap rate 11.37%

Looking for input, thoughts or similar experiances.  Of course the clause and then subsiquent eviction is my main concern.

Thanks to all who will provide their wisdom.

Jason

 What about Liberal politics in B.C. don't you get? You will be skewered by the press and the lawsuits alone will eat up all of your time. Go eat a Deep Cove Pizza and think about this one before you tie up the next 3 - 5 years of your life.

Account Closed

Thanks for the insight. 

Side note, nothing about it is illegal. It will all be done correctly under the BC tenancy act. 

I agree about the press however and that's the kind of constructive feedback I was looking for. Thanks for the late reply and on a Friday night to boot!

Bad press + Bad charma = No for Me

Even though it is technically by the book so to speak, politics and public perception could turn a great deal in to a great nightmare. I bet your instincts are telling you no while the numbers are telling you yes. Pay very close attention to your instincts. You have them for a reason. Every time I have disrespected my instincts, I have paid dearly. 

The media will roast you . But if you can figure a way to turn that to your advantage you will be golden 

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