Flip and hold markets
4 Replies
John Voychick
from San Diego
posted over 3 years ago
I'm trying to decide between markets on flip and hold.
I'm considering memphis and Florida right now but am open to success stories.
I'm hoping to spend 70-80k cash, add 15-20k.
Appraise for >115k, refi
Rent for 11-1300.
Has anyone done anything recent like this?
Jeremy Marek
from Evergreen Park, Illinois
replied over 3 years ago
Brent Coombs
Investor from Cleveland, Ohio
replied over 3 years ago
If it only appraises at 15% more than you have into it - you won't get all your cash back!
ie. At this value-ratio, it's not self-sustainable (for buy-n-hold). And for a flip, is it worth it?
ie. You should be aiming at getting all your cash back, every time you refi.
But sure, if you can get more than 1%/m gross return, and ongoing appreciation, then that's something. It's just that in that price range, is (only) 15% off market value, enough to thrive?...
John Voychick
from San Diego
replied over 3 years ago
Well, I've been looking into memphis for a while now. I've had many conversations with tk providers and will be headed out there in a couple months. But then I thought, why not cash out refi so I can do more deals.
In Florida, I was thinking Ocala where my parents live.
If these numbers are too tight, what are more realistic numbers I should be looking for.
(I'm new at this. Any info helps)
Jason Carter
Rental Property Investor from Culver City, CA
replied over 3 years ago
@John Voychick At the numbers you gave, you'd be into the property for 100K cash. If it's ARV is 120K and it appraises for that you are generally going to be able to get 70% of that back on a cash out refi. So that would be 120 x . 70 = 84K is what you will get back (hypothetically, different rules could apply depending on your bank) So the house will cost you 16K.
If you want to get all your cash back just find a house where the total cash you put in is 70% or less of the ARV. If you're putting in 100k you want the ARV to be at least 143K.