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How do new investors actually find partners for deals?

Kaylin Wedel
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In almost every real estate book I’ve read, people eventually find partners or investors to help support larger-scale deals. Sometimes it’s family or friends, but that hasn’t really been an option for me. The people close to me tend to see real estate as risky or too expensive, so they’re not very supportive of the idea of investing in it. However, I tend to see opportunity where others see risk. I enjoy the challenge of figuring out how to make projects work, and I’m hoping to connect with people who think similarly and want to build something together.

I'm currently finishing up my first flip, which I plan to rent as an Airbnb (and eventually pull my money back out to keep investing). I'm especially interested in Airbnb and vacation rental developments because I think thoughtful, creative design can really boost ROI. With a background in interior design, I bring a design-focused perspective to projects. While I wouldn't be bringing massive sums of money to the table, I will have some capital available and believe I can add a lot of value on the design, renovation, and creative side of deals.

For those of you who have found investing partners, where did you actually meet them? Local real estate meetups? BiggerPockets events or conferences? Online communities? Just networking locally? I’ve considered attending larger conferences, like the BiggerPockets one coming up in October, but as someone in my mid-20s I worry about not being taken seriously yet. At the same time, I know the connections could be valuable if that’s really where partnerships form.

Would love to hear where your best partnerships actually came from and whether conferences were worth it!

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Evan Polaski#5 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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@Kaylin Wedel I appreciate the fact that you come from a design background versus most people on these forums which tend to be more spreadsheet focused.  My wife is an interior designer.  She does the occasional flip, when we find one in a neighborhood we know and like.  We had an Airbnb.  Have some long term rentals.  And she has recently started doing client work.

How does this help you?  There are likely areas in every city where the typical buyer values design over "value".  And creativity is innate and hard (if not impossible) to teach, where almost anyone can learn how to plug numbers into a spreadsheet.

All that being said, Airbnbs and flips are likely best to find partners at local meetups.  In the grand scheme of things, you are not talking about a lot of money, so one or two partners will likely get you there.  I would start there and see what you find.  Attend them for several months straight, as partnerships are built on trust, and trust is not built by going to an event once.

Secondly, I would be looking for possible lending sources.  Again, if you have some money to put down and fund renovations, a loan is a better option , in many ways, than a partner, because you won't give up unlimited upside to a lender, leaving you with more at the end of the day, and that much closer to being able to do these alone.  A loan is also better for a good Airbnb for the same reason.

Then I will echo Don.  If you get this first one done and start crushing it, don't be shy about sharing on these forums, linkedin, if you are on social media.  It is amazing how quickly friends and family that are "against real estate" change their tune when they see you killing it.  And even if they don't, you have shared it with others who may be interested and/or know someone that would be.  

Overall, I think anything involving single family real estate: flips, rentals, airbnb's, etc don't have enough "meat on the bone" to make sense with partners. 

Last piece of unsolicited advice: each version of real estate, in your case flips and airbnb's, require a different skill set.  Airbnbs are hospitality.  So while the design is important, and can help get people to stop scrolling, you need to be in the right area for travelers, with good design, and be ready to serve guests: toilet paper, comfortable beds and sheets, all the dishes, cleaning supplies, etc.  You will get guests contacting you day and night and need to be responsive. My wife loved designing the airbnb and coming up with creative touches to enhance the guest experience, but hated the day to day work that is really involved.

On flips, it is construction management more than anything.  My wife hates every flip she does until the last couple weeks when "all the pretty things" happen.  But there are 3-4 months of annoying work to get to that point, with the worst being the "man sitting" of her contractors who will deviate from her plans, only show up for 3 hours a day, and generally create a lot of stress for her. But the end result is worth all the headaches to get there.

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