Camas, WA · Member since 2019 · 44 posts · 36 votes
So I've been looking to take some next steps in real estate investing. I bought two STRs last year which are cash flowing nicely, but now I'm looking to some more long term deals using the BRRRR strategy. I have about $40k in cash, but looking to take some cash out of my home using a HELOC. But i've been turned down by several HELOCs due to lower income, and because my STRs don't have two years of income to show, the companies count the loans as if they were personal properties as opposed to rentals. I'm eager to pull money out of my home, because I have about $275k in equity in it, but can't seem to figure it out. Anyone have any thoughts/leads for how to work this situation? Thanks team BP.
Real Estate Agent · Murfreesboro, TN · Member since 2019 · 194 posts · 181 votes
6y
@Jake Thornton
A great local lender should have no problem arguing to their board to get you a HELOC. Try finding a local commercial lendee who does everything in house.
Camas, WA · Member since 2019 · 44 posts · 36 votes
6y
Hey @Account Closed
Yes I've been looking there, but my main concern with Ohio and those low cost deals is the potential to get screwed on CapEx costs. Have you had experience doing it there?
Wholesaler · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2019 · 55 posts · 47 votes
6y
Look for some private lenders who will do a cash out refinance on your residence. They are much less strict than the traditional banks and base the loan primarily off of the collateral asset (your house). These companies can give you anywhere from 70-80% LTV based on what your property appraises for. The interest rate will be higher than a traditional bank loan as well, but it's worth it if you are going to be putting that money you pull out to good use (which I'm sure you plan to!). Also, with a refinance loan, prepare for the appraisal to come in slightly lower than a typical real estate appraisal to purchase. Not sure why that is but from my experience and other investors here, the appraisal may be a bit lower than your liking. However, if you are looking to pull equity out of your property and the banks are giving you ****, I would look to a reputable private lender who is willing to do the refinance without making you jump through hoops. Best of luck!
Real Estate Agent · Murfreesboro, TN · Member since 2019 · 194 posts · 181 votes
6y
@Jake Thornton
A great local lender should have no problem arguing to their board to get you a HELOC. Try finding a local commercial lendee who does everything in house.
Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
6y
@Jake Thornton the smaller the bank, the more flexibility, typically. STR are hard for this, most banks are slow to become comfortable with newer trends and without operating history they can't underwrite your income because you are essentially signing 1 day leases on these properties. Banks like consistency over time, which is one reason a 12 month lease is important.
Private money is an option, but as mentioned is more expensive, and at least in my experience tends to be 12 month money.
I would keep shopping around. Are the STR's mortgaged? Are they in your name or LLC? If possible, titling STRs in LLC and getting mortgage in that LLC can move the liability off your personal credit report and into a contingent liability, which can help your DTI. But realistically, you will likely run into the same issues with not enough operating history for a lender to UW the mortgage on the STRs.
Other than that, I would be patient for your history to build. 2 years is important to most, but a creative loan officer will find a way with 1 yr. Also, if you have any other debts, particularly revolvers on your credit report, get those paid off ASAP. That will help your ratios in underwriting.