How long to wait after a bankruptcy ?

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Robin SimonBusiness Member
Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
5mo

Generally, there are loan programs including DSCR that will allow you to qualify without much of a hit on eligibility (or even pricing) with a recent bankruptcy. Generally, there are four categories of "credit events" that you would have to worry about:

1) Bankruptcy

2) Foreclosure

3) Short Sale

4) Deed-in-Lieu

Generally, if you have just one in the last four years or so (this differs from lender to lender), then you should be OK, but multiple will make you ineligible. I'd start looking at DSCR Lenders right now if your credit is repaired and its just the one bnakruptcy

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  • Robin SimonBusiness Member
    Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    5mo

    Generally, there are loan programs including DSCR that will allow you to qualify without much of a hit on eligibility (or even pricing) with a recent bankruptcy. Generally, there are four categories of "credit events" that you would have to worry about:

    1) Bankruptcy

    2) Foreclosure

    3) Short Sale

    4) Deed-in-Lieu

    Generally, if you have just one in the last four years or so (this differs from lender to lender), then you should be OK, but multiple will make you ineligible. I'd start looking at DSCR Lenders right now if your credit is repaired and its just the one bnakruptcy

  • Member since 2026 · 8 posts · 1 vote
    5mo

    Have you heard of this group ?  https://app.kiavi.com/

    • Robin SimonBusiness Member
      Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Thomas Knutson:

      Have you heard of this group ?  https://app.kiavi.com/


      Yes - they specialize in hard money loans for flips but I would go a different route for DSCR Loans, thats more of a side business for them and not nearly as competitive as their renovation financing

    • Tim SwierczekPro Member
      Lender · White Bear Township, MN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Thomas Knutson:

      Have you heard of this group ?  https://app.kiavi.com/


       Yes, they are a hard money lender. Good for short-term loans like flips, or BRRRRs, but you need an exit strategy, and if that means keeping the property, you must have a path to a refinance loan before you start. Don't use them unless you a guarenteed a profitable sale or you already have a take-out loan you qualify for.

  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5mo
    Quote from @Thomas Knutson:

    BK was due to medical bills, and are healthy now.

    Some say you have to wait 2 years before doing anything ?

    Is it possible to get Private money / Conventional after a BK sooner?  And where to look ?

    Seeking advice for : Duplex or Air B&B investment  Minneapolis area


    You can still obtain a DSCR loan with a BK. Happy to chat

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  • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5mo
    Quote from @Thomas Knutson:

    BK was due to medical bills, and are healthy now.

    Some say you have to wait 2 years before doing anything ?

    Is it possible to get Private money / Conventional after a BK sooner?  And where to look ?

    Seeking advice for : Duplex or Air B&B investment  Minneapolis area

    It depends on income and what remaining debt you have. When I was a mortgage lender, we could put people into a loan a couple of months after they completed their bankruptcy, but you need to know what you're doing and the income has to be there.
  • Member since 2026 · 8 posts · 1 vote
    5mo

    can you add the existing Air B&B income to the family income for the calculation

  • Mike GrudzienPro Member
    Lender · Eugene, OR · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5mo

    Try DSCR

  • Stacy RaskinBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 497 votes
    5mo

    You can do financing more quickly with DSCR loans. Conventional loans have a longer waiting period.

  • Tim SwierczekPro Member
    Lender · White Bear Township, MN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5mo
    Quote from @Thomas Knutson:

    BK was due to medical bills, and are healthy now.

    Some say you have to wait 2 years before doing anything ?

    Is it possible to get Private money / Conventional after a BK sooner?  And where to look ?

    Seeking advice for : Duplex or Air B&B investment  Minneapolis area


    Each loan program has its own minimum waiting period. The waiting period for "Agency" loan products will not vary based on the lender because the guidelines for those loans are set at a National level; no lender can change them. There is another category of loans called Non-QM. They are more flexible and, in some cases, offer loans 1 day after a BK.  In all cases, the details matter; some but not all of the details that will affect the answer are:

    Type of BK- Ch 7, 11, 13?
    Reason for BK- In your case, Medical, this is the best answer you can have and will open up some options
    Down payment %
    Occupancy of the new property

    Property type

    FICO Score

    Amount of Reserves- This is your cash remaining after closing; it can include stock and retirement funds at a discounted amount. 1 Reserve = 1 Month payment on the primary residence

    Some lenders will have even more factors, but these are the common ones.  The minimum waiting periods for Agency loans are as follows

    Conventional

    Ch 7- 4 years

    Ch 13- 2 years if discharged/4 years if dismissed

    FHA & VA
    Ch 7 - 2 years
    Ch 13- 12 months of on-time payments with court approval

    USDA
    Ch 7- 3 years

    Ch 13- 12 months of on-time payments with court approval

    Hit me up if you want to talk specifics

    PS- I couldn't get the spacing to remain consistent; that was not intentional, it's on BP

    • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Tim Swierczek:
      Quote from @Thomas Knutson:

      BK was due to medical bills, and are healthy now.

      Some say you have to wait 2 years before doing anything ?

      Is it possible to get Private money / Conventional after a BK sooner?  And where to look ?

      Seeking advice for : Duplex or Air B&B investment  Minneapolis area


      Each loan program has its own minimum waiting period. The waiting period for "Agency" loan products will not vary based on the lender because the guidelines for those loans are set at a National level; no lender can change them. There is another category of loans called Non-QM. They are more flexible and, in some cases, offer loans 1 day after a BK.  In all cases, the details matter; some but not all of the details that will affect the answer are:

      Type of BK- Ch 7, 11, 13?
      Reason for BK- In your case, Medical, this is the best answer you can have and will open up some options
      Down payment %
      Occupancy of the new property

      Property type

      FICO Score

      Amount of Reserves- This is your cash remaining after closing; it can include stock and retirement funds at a discounted amount. 1 Reserve = 1 Month payment on the primary residence

      Some lenders will have even more factors, but these are the common ones.  The minimum waiting periods for Agency loans are as follows

      Conventional

      Ch 7- 4 years

      Ch 13- 2 years if discharged/4 years if dismissed

      FHA & VA
      Ch 7 - 2 years
      Ch 13- 12 months of on-time payments with court approval

      USDA
      Ch 7- 3 years

      Ch 13- 12 months of on-time payments with court approval

      Hit me up if you want to talk specifics

      PS- I couldn't get the spacing to remain consistent; that was not intentional, it's on BP

      The obvious question is "since a guy has been paying for typically 3 years on a 36 month plan for Chapt 13 and stopped paying at all on a Chapt 7 plan, why is the Chapt 13 penalized for doing the right thing and making payments?

      Wisdom (craziness) of congress. It makes no monetary sense.

      (As a lender, back in the stone age, long before 2008, I would bail Chapt 13's out of foreclosure and out of bankruptcy)
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