Delayed Financing - an Overview

Delayed Financing - an Overview

Lender · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2013 · 264 posts · 97 votes

Just wanted to share an overview I wrote out on Delayed financing. Feel free to discuss and ask questions. I see it comes up a lot, so thought this would help:

Delayed Financing - Investors can Cash out of your investment property 1 day after purchase

OVERVIEW

In a competitive housing market with historically low inventory, many Real Estate Investors, are paying cash for their investment properties. Be it a flip or rental property, paying cash to differentiate yourself in a competitive market can mean the difference between a good deal, or a marginal and maybe even overpriced deal. Paying all cash makes a huge difference in leveraging the offer and terms you want. Sellers know there's no questionable loan needed to close the sale of their home and escrows can close in as little as 14 days if so desired.

However, once an investor buys a property with their hard earned cash - or even with syndicated funds from other investors or family- lenders have typically required 12 months seasoning before you could refinance out your cash. Some cases allowed refinance after 6 months. This ties up your cash for a long time and means many investors can only do one cash deal a year. But there's an alternative.

Delayed Financing is a conventional mortgage refinance of an investment property that was paid for with all cash. Technically, you can request a refinance 1 day after the sale closes on your purchase. However, you can refinance within 6 months after the close of your purchase under these guidelines.

QUALIFICATIONS

We're speaking primarily of Fannie Mae's delayed financing guidelines, so your typical Investment Property Cash-Out Refinance matrix applies. This means you can cash out 75% of the value of your home for a single unit property or 70% of the value for a 2-4 unit property. It must have been an arms length transaction to qualify, so don't buy from friends or family and expect to be able to use this program. And all the sources of funds must be able to be documented.

Sources of Funds - Typically cash is king and any cash coming from a bank account, qualified retirement account that allows for a real estate purchase (typically a self-directed IRA), or borrowed 401k funds. You can mix and match funds from any of these and other accounted sources and qualify to cash-out under this program. But can you borrow anything other than your own funds (401k, IRA) and still qualify? The answer is yes.

Borrowed funds are allowed with some caveats. The primary restriction being that there can not be any lien applied or stipulated on or to the subject property. So if you borrow from friend's or family, for example, they cannot be secured by any type of deed to the property. Tie it up contractually as you may, but keep in mind, that the conditions of the agreement/note can affect your qualification.

Any institutional source of funds is allowed as well. Borrow from your credit cards, someone else's line of credit, cash out from another property can all be used to purchase your investment property with ALL CASH and qualify for Delayed Financing. Just know that borrowed funds MUST be paid down first at closing to secure the creditor.

HOW MUCH CAN I CASH OUT

Technically, you can cash out up to 100% of what you paid for the property. What determines what you paid is the closing statement of your purchase transaction (i.e. HUD-1). This document also confirms that no mortgages were used in the purchase and itemizes all of your closing costs. These closing costs can also be calculated in your total purchase cost that you can recoup. However, you're limited to that 75% or 70% loan to value respectively.

What determines this value. The appraisal of course. But which one? If you are applying immediately after the close of your purchase, the original appraisal you acquired for the purchase is used. If you didn't use one (since you paid cash and were confident in the value), then a new one will be ordered. This is where the word "Technically" in the previous paragraph comes in. Most appraisals apply for 60 or 90 days. Most lenders will require you use the previous appraisal no matter what. Some will allow a new appraisal to be ordered if you show you made significant improvements to the value of the property before applying for the cash-out. So technically, if you got a great deal when you paid cash, your appraised value may be higher than you paid for the property. If it's say 25% higher than you paid, then you can recoup 100% of the total purchase costs.

This works very well for many investors who typically buy fixer uppers to rehab and rent for cash flow. Many times, if you buy shrewdly, you can recoup the majority, if not all, of your funds you used to buy your investment property. This then frees up your cash to move on to the next property and repeat. So, if building a portfolio of property is your game, Delayed Financing could be the answer to your prayers in speeding up that process without complicating your offers and leverage earned by using ALL CASH.

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MD · Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 3 votes
6y

This is very helpful! Thank you. So if I paid cash for one property and have two more pending (cash paid via HELOC). Is it too late to take advantage of your "step 3" in your awesome and detailed post on the subject? I realize I may not have optimized the structure in advance. Wonder what my best strategy is at this point?

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  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 80 posts · 38 votes
    9y

    Good post @Robert Sepulveda! I'm in underwriting for a delayed financing loan right now. I was pleasantly surprised when I found that I didn't have to wait to get my cash back. I leveraged the cash value on some whole life insurance policies for the purchase. It'll save me a couple hundred a month in interest and free up the funds to do it again once the loan comes in. 

  • Lender · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2013 · 264 posts · 97 votes
    9y

    @Jieh Larson Great to hear!!! who did you end up using for the loan?

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 80 posts · 38 votes
    9y

    I'm using Cornerstone. I've used them a few times and the rates are always competitive. 

  • Lender · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2013 · 264 posts · 97 votes
    9y

    Good choice @Jieh Larson

  • Augusta, GA · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    Hello @Robert Sepulveda, reading this article with interest and looking for some clarity on the last section where you discuss how much you can "cash out". You initially discuss the limit as what you paid for the property in cash, plus closing costs, and then later go on to discuss the appraisal. In reading the Fannie Mae guidelines, here's what it says:

    "The new loan amount can be no more than the actual documented amount of the borrower's initial investment in purchasing the property plus the financing of closing costs, prepaid fees, and points on the new mortgage loan (subject to the maximum LTV, CLTV, and HCLTV ratios for the cash-out transaction based on the current appraised value)."

    This seems to say what you are saying, but I'm still confused, how can the new loan be limited at both the initial investment AND the current appraisal? Wouldn't the cash purchase price (in a good BRRRR type deal) be much lower than expected appraisal, or certainly, the ARV? So which is the cash-out limit, 75% (for SFH) of "borrower's initial investment", or of "ARV appraisal"?


    Thanks


  • Lender · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2013 · 264 posts · 97 votes
    6y

    @Wouter Ceyssens apologies for the delay. For this type of financing, any mention of the appraisal is going to be limited to the original appraisal at the time of purchase when it's within 90 days that a typical appraisal is valid for. Beyond 90 days, an updated appraisal will be used to confirm the value is not below the requested amount and will not exceed that 75% LTV max threshold.

    Even in the portfolio lender space where there's more options for investors, you're still going to be limited to the purchase price, plus HUD/Closing Statement costs, and any legitimate repairs you can document.

    The added bonus doing it within a Portfolio loan instead of a Fannie Mae loan, is that you would have easier qualifying on the income of the property with the right lender. For example, stated income and stated assets are possible even on long term investment property loans with a Portfolio/Private Lender. They don't have to follow Fannie Mae guidelines so it's easier more than ever for investors to finance their money out of a cash deal or a deal post rehab.

    Good Luck all!

  • MD · Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    I paid all cash and would like to pull the funds out ASAP.  I did not get an appraisal on the property.  I’m putting  5-10k in repairs. Should I wait until those repairs are made to get a higher appraisal amount? I’ll be renting for a higher amount at that time as well.  (When I bought I had current tenant paying below market value) if I repair and rent, can I cash out immediately or do I know have to wait for s “seasoning” period?  What conditions would make an investor have to “wait”? Thanks in advance

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    Lender · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    6y

    @Keith C. so many posts in Bigger Pockets that this seems to be one that I missed.  So thanks for posting on it.  I wrote a post on how to do better than delayed financing HERE  Let me know if you have any questions on it. Thanks!

  • MD · Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    This is very helpful! Thank you. So if I paid cash for one property and have two more pending (cash paid via HELOC). Is it too late to take advantage of your "step 3" in your awesome and detailed post on the subject? I realize I may not have optimized the structure in advance. Wonder what my best strategy is at this point?

  • Investor · McKinney, TX · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Keith C.:

    This is very helpful! Thank you. So if I paid cash for one property and have two more pending (cash paid via HELOC). Is it too late to take advantage of your "step 3" in your awesome and detailed post on the subject? I realize I may not have optimized the structure in advance. Wonder what my best strategy is at this point?

    Did you end up getting delayed financing for any of your property?  Do you mind sharing your experience? Thanks 

  • Investor · McKinney, TX · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    6y
  • Investor · McKinney, TX · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Jieh Larson:

    I'm using Cornerstone. I've used them a few times and the rates are always competitive. 

    Can you share the contact details for Cornerstone?

  • Andrew PostellPro Member
    Lender · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    6y

    @Oluyomi A. did you have any specific questions that we may be able to help with?

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