Finding quality hard money

Finding quality hard money

Chicago · Member since 2018 · 28 posts · 12 votes

Hey everyone,

Thought I’d put a post out regarding how to find good hard money lenders. How do you vet them? What makes a good lender compared to a bad lender? Would you recommend a newbie use hard money on their first deal?

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Investor · Kirkland, WA · Member since 2017 · 121 posts · 53 votes
7y

@Dan Miklosz instead of using hard money to fund the first deal, you might consider finding another experienced investor to work the project with. There may be someone in your network that would consider it if you found a deal and put it in front of them.

If that's not your preference, hard money is definitely a viable option, you just want to make sure that you build holding costs in to your estimate and over estimate. It's likely that the first project will take longer than you expect.

During your vetting process, you'll probably want to find a locally based lender that knows your market and can provide a second set of eyes on the deal. That's really valuable because they look at deals all day long and can provide a valuable perspective. Also, find out if they require origination paid upfront, ask more questions. There are some horror stories I've heard from investors that pay upfront and then the lender goes dark. You'll want to know how their draw process works if you're planning to have the lender fund your rehab, and the max percentage to ARV they will lend.

Also, ask others in your market how the lender is perceived and if they've worked with them before. Often that is the best insight you'll get.

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  • Investor · Kirkland, WA · Member since 2017 · 121 posts · 53 votes
    7y

    @Dan Miklosz instead of using hard money to fund the first deal, you might consider finding another experienced investor to work the project with. There may be someone in your network that would consider it if you found a deal and put it in front of them.

    If that's not your preference, hard money is definitely a viable option, you just want to make sure that you build holding costs in to your estimate and over estimate. It's likely that the first project will take longer than you expect.

    During your vetting process, you'll probably want to find a locally based lender that knows your market and can provide a second set of eyes on the deal. That's really valuable because they look at deals all day long and can provide a valuable perspective. Also, find out if they require origination paid upfront, ask more questions. There are some horror stories I've heard from investors that pay upfront and then the lender goes dark. You'll want to know how their draw process works if you're planning to have the lender fund your rehab, and the max percentage to ARV they will lend.

    Also, ask others in your market how the lender is perceived and if they've worked with them before. Often that is the best insight you'll get.

  • Lender · Miami, FL · Member since 2019 · 42 posts · 12 votes
    7y

    Hey Dan,

    I know a great lender that closes quick too. They focus more on credit score and equity and have pretty great rates. I like to think of them as private instead of hard. They've helped a bunch of people on BP forums already.

    Send me a message, I'll put you in touch with them.

  • Stephanie P.Pro Member
    Washington, DC Mortgage Lender/Broker · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Dan Miklosz

    Here are some good hints your lender is pretty good.

    • They don't get too beat up on Biggerpockets.
    • They never send you a copy of their driver's license.
    • They don't charge points up front
    • They tell you up front that you have to pay for an appraisal or BPO, but it goes to a real AMC
    • They speak in acronyms (LTV, ARV, DSCR, DTI, ARM), but can explain what each means
    • They know the difference between an ARM and a Fixed rate loan
    • They aren't afraid to tell you no, but will offer a solution instead.

    Just a few off the top of my head.

    Stephanie

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