Financing Vacation Home with 10% Down on Jumbo Loan

Financing Vacation Home with 10% Down on Jumbo Loan

Portland, OR · Member since 2020 · 65 posts · 38 votes

Hey BP -

I'm looking for some guidance and advice when it comes to seeking out lenders who will accept a 10% down payment for a second home/vacation home where the loan amount happens to be greater than the maximum amount for a conventional conforming loan of $510,400. 

Is this even possible? I know a number of you out there have used this strategy but I'm curious if loan amount was greater than that $510k figure requiring a jumbo loan, and if so, we're you able to do less than 20% down?

I've done my research, I know that I need to look at smaller banks and credit unions with portfolio loans. I've called about 15-20 different banks and CUs (primarily local but a couple we're outside my local area) and every single one has had a similar message. Second mortgages on vacation homes over the $510k will require a jumbo loan, which as a result, will require a 20%+ down payment. 

For what it's worth, I had one CU actually tell me that they had an in house product they offered prior to COVID but have since retracted that from their product offering. 

Anyone here ever dealt with this before? I can't imagine I'm the first person to run into this roadblock. I'm sure there's ways around it - just looking for some guidance.

Thanks!

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  • Julee FelsmanPro Member
    Lender · Portland, OR · Member since 2018 · 163 posts · 136 votes
    6y

    Hi @Dado Vucak,

    10% down jumbo loans for secondary residences were much more plentiful prior to COVID, but they can still be had. 

    I am a loan officer for a lender that offers two paths to 10% down on a vacation property. One program is a true jumbo loan at 90%. It requires no MI and is available at up to a $650 loan amount (prior to COVID we could go up to $850k on this loan).

    The other program is a second mortgage that we can combine with either a jumbo or conforming first mortgage for aggregate financing of 90%. 

    I happen to be in Portland too... are you shopping out at the Coast? :)

    Julee

  • Portland, OR · Member since 2020 · 65 posts · 38 votes
    6y

    Hi @Julee Felsman

    Thanks so much for your quick response - I knew there would be options out there!

    We're shopping in Central Washington actually. Most homes that we're interested in are around the $800k mark. Sounds like I just missed the train on the perfect product offering. Have there been any discussions on pushing that $650k limit back up?

  • Julee FelsmanPro Member
    Lender · Portland, OR · Member since 2018 · 163 posts · 136 votes
    6y

    @Dado Vucak I've already had guidelines for that program loosen up... so i suspect it will come back eventually. No timeline to say for sure though. The 850 loan limit is still listed on the guidelines even. It's just suspended right now.

    In the meantime, the best option I know of would be a $510,400 first + a $209,600 second to get to $720k -- 90% of your $800k target price. The HELOC would be a prime-based variable rate, so you'd want to either chip away at it over time, or keep an eye out for a moment when could refinance.

    The bonus of that structure is that you'll qualify for the amazingly low conforming rates for the first mortgage.

  • Julee FelsmanPro Member
    Lender · Portland, OR · Member since 2018 · 163 posts · 136 votes
    6y

    @Dado Vucak Just monkeyed around a little with our pricing engine and was able to pull up an option with a $650k first mortgage and a 70k second mortgage. The pricing's not great though... still like the conforming first option better at the moment!

  • Portland, OR · Member since 2020 · 65 posts · 38 votes
    6y

    @Julee Felsman maybe I am misunderstanding but that would only work if you don't have an existing mortgage, correct? We already have an existing mortgage on our primary residence. 

    What I really want is a true Jumbo at 90% with a limit that's within the price range that we're looking at. I'm sure it's out there! I may just need to keep calling around. 

  • Julee FelsmanPro Member
    Lender · Portland, OR · Member since 2018 · 163 posts · 136 votes
    6y

    @Dado Vucak Nope, this scenario is for the purchase of a secondary residence. Whether you have another loan or not doesn't matter. Both the first and second mortgages would be secured to the property you are buying. 

    The only way your primary residence matters is as a part of your debt to income ratio. Whatever you pay for housing (be it rent or a mortgage) is part of your DTI.

  • Portland, OR · Member since 2020 · 65 posts · 38 votes
    6y

    @Julee Felsman Okay - that's great news. Let's get in touch to chat more about these numbers! 

  • Julee FelsmanPro Member
    Lender · Portland, OR · Member since 2018 · 163 posts · 136 votes
    6y

    @Dado Vucak Sure! Any time... DM me if you want to chat!

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