Property transfer to LLC/ tax treatment

Property transfer to LLC/ tax treatment

Member since 2021 · 4 posts · 1 vote

Hello –

I'm looking for confirmation of understanding/ advice relating to transferring property into LLC and treatment from a tax perspective

My parents completed a 1031 exchange over 2 years in their own names – they file a joint tax return. We'd like to transfer their interests to an LLC – however, we do not wish to be treated as a partnership for federal tax purposes. It seems that if my parents transfer the property to a LLC in which each owns a 50% interest, the default federal tax classification would be a partnership if we do not live in a community property state and the property is not located in a community property state? We live, and the property is located, in NJ, which based on my research is not a community property state. Would appreciate some advice on this. Our CPA told us if we transferred to NJ LLC with both of my parents as 50/50 owners, they can treat the LLC as a single member for federal tax purposes and continue to file on Schedule E because they file a joint return, but this seems to be inconsistent with what I've read.

If we want to transfer to an LLC and continue reporting on Schedule E on their joint tax return, can I simply set up the LLC with one of my parents as the member and have each parent deed their interest to the LLC that will be owned by one parent? I think there is a deemed sale from one parent to another but since they are husband and wife filing joint return, I don't think there are tax ramifications but would appreciate thoughts/ advice here. We'd prefer to not deed their interests to 2 separate SMLLCs as this creates complexities with having to maintain multiple bank accounts, etc.

Note that at some point in the future we'd like to complete a 1031 but in the name of LLC instead of their names.

Thanks in advance for advice/ input.  I've also posted in QI/ 1031 Exchange Forum as well.

Jackie

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Sean O'KeefePro Member
CPA | Accepting new clients | 50 States · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 870 votes
2y

Can you clarify why there's an urgent need to put rental in LLC?

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  • Sean O'KeefePro Member
    CPA | Accepting new clients | 50 States · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 870 votes
    2y

    Can you clarify why there's an urgent need to put rental in LLC?

  • Michael PlaksPro Member
    Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    2y

    @Jackie Riley

    Who are "we" that you keep referring to? Is this you and your husband trying to make decisions for your parents who own the property and you don't? This is a slippery slope if my guess is correct.

    Family dynamics aside, let's discuss it as if we're talking about your own property. Your CPA is both right and wrong. The IRS official position is that a husband-wife LLC in a non-community-property state such as NJ must file a partnership tax return. In my opinion, and I looked deep into this issue, the IRS position is not supported by the actual law. Are you willing to challenge the IRS in court over their likely arbitrary but firm position? I'm not.

    The way around it is a single-person LLC owned by only one person and not their spouse. Then you can continue filing Sch E and also do a 1031 in the name of the LLC.

    Before you take this route, there're two key questions:
    1. Do you really need an LLC?
    2. What are other, non-tax, consequences and risks of excluding one of the spouses from the legal ownership?

  • Member since 2021 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    2y

    Thanks both. Putting into LLC is recommended by attorney and for liability protection purposes. The property is commercial and most people tend to put into LLC. No I am not making decisions for my parents.

  • Accountant · San Diego, CA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 552 votes
    2y

    Hey Jackie, 

    Is just creating an LLC in one of their names and then holding the property in it not an option? Since they are married filing jointly I'm confused what the goal here is

  • Dave FosterBusiness Member
    Qualified Intermediary for 1031 Exchanges · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    2y

    @Jackie Riley, Asked and answered by @Michael Plaks perfectly as always! It's really not a 1031 issue until they sell that property. When they do the exchanger will need to be whatever tax return is reporting the activity of the property. If a single member LLC that does not file a tax return then the individuals joint tax return will be the exchanger. If it ends up being a partnership LLC then the activity of the property is reported on the tax return of the LLC so it will have to sell and buy the new property.

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