Can we take Syndication Depreciation (loss) to offset Stock Gains?

Can we take Syndication Depreciation (loss) to offset Stock Gains?

Member since 2024 · 13 posts · 8 votes

Hi Pros, 

I invested in a Self-storage syndication (Ohio) and received an accelerated depreciation loss (K1) from the syndicate management. I want to find out if we can offset the depreciation loss from the self-storage (K1) against the passive short-term gains from stock investing.
Appreciate your valuable insights!

Thanks,
Mahender Bist
California

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Member since 2025 · 7 posts · 8 votes
1y

Hello Mahender, while it seems like you should be able to take the gains from the sale of stock against the losses from your syndication investment as they are both passive, that is not the case.  This is because income from the sale of stocks, and other securities, as portfolio income under the current tax regulations.  Due to this distinction that the IRS draws you are not able to take the gains from the stock sale capital gains against the losses from depreciation for the syndication investment. 

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  • Greg ScottPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    1y

    If you have Real Estate Professional Status (REPS - a specific IRS designation not a "do you invest in real estate" question) you can deduct 100%.  If you are not, it depends on your income and you are capped at $7K.

    • Accountant , CPA, MBA in Finance, MS in Taxation · Redmond, WA · Member since 2025 · 172 posts · 135 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Greg Scott:

      If you have Real Estate Professional Status (REPS - a specific IRS designation not a "do you invest in real estate" question) you can deduct 100%.  If you are not, it depends on your income and you are capped at $7K.

      This isn't correct. REPS status only means real estate rental activities aren't automatically passive.

      But the taxpayer, even if he or she is a REP, still needs to materially participate in the thing generating the losses.

      For what it's worth, a few months ago, I saw some advertising saying you could do this. They later stopped. Pretty sure someone pointed out they'd gotten this all wrong.

    • Greg ScottPro Member
      Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Stephen Nelson:
      Quote from @Greg Scott:

      If you have Real Estate Professional Status (REPS - a specific IRS designation not a "do you invest in real estate" question) you can deduct 100%.  If you are not, it depends on your income and you are capped at $7K.

      This isn't correct. REPS status only means real estate rental activities aren't automatically passive.

      But the taxpayer, even if he or she is a REP, still needs to materially participate in the thing generating the losses.

      For what it's worth, a few months ago, I saw some advertising saying you could do this. They later stopped. Pretty sure someone pointed out they'd gotten this all wrong.

      Please explain what you thought I said was incorrect.  I did not define how to achieve REPS and clearly stated that not all investing activities qualify.
  • Accountant , CPA, MBA in Finance, MS in Taxation · Redmond, WA · Member since 2025 · 172 posts · 135 votes
    1y

    To use the mini-storage losses to shelter other income, the losses need to be nonpassive.

    The losses are not nonpassive just because the investor is a real estate professional. He'd need to be a real estate professional and materially participate in the ministorage business to make real estate losses nonpassive.

    • Greg ScottPro Member
      Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Stephen Nelson:

      To use the mini-storage losses to shelter other income, the losses need to be nonpassive.

      The losses are not nonpassive just because the investor is a real estate professional. He'd need to be a real estate professional and materially participate in the ministorage business to make real estate losses nonpassive.

      I've never heard a CPA distinguish between REPS status and REPS without active participation.  Every CPA I've talked with says that to achieve REPS status you need to be actively engaged in real estate (plus other qualifications I will leave out.)

      FWIW, the poster did not say whether or note he materially participated in real estate outside of the self-storage passive investment.

      Thanks for explaining your PoV.


    • Accountant , CPA, MBA in Finance, MS in Taxation · Redmond, WA · Member since 2025 · 172 posts · 135 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Greg Scott:
      Quote from @Stephen Nelson:

      To use the mini-storage losses to shelter other income, the losses need to be nonpassive.

      The losses are not nonpassive just because the investor is a real estate professional. He'd need to be a real estate professional and materially participate in the ministorage business to make real estate losses nonpassive.

      I've never heard a CPA distinguish between REPS status and REPS without active participation.  Every CPA I've talked with says that to achieve REPS status you need to be actively engaged in real estate (plus other qualifications I will leave out.)

      FWIW, the poster did not say whether or note he materially participated in real estate outside of the self-storage passive investment.

      Thanks for explaining your PoV.


      Sorry if I didn't do a good job explaining this here. 

      Maybe the easier way to think about this is, REPS means real estate rentals aren't automatically passive activities. But REPS doesn't mean material participation doesn't matter.

      E.g, a full-time self-employed realtor is a REP. But that doesn't mean a rental property she or he owns is automatically nonpassive. The realtor still needs to materially participate in the rental to use losses.

      Same thing for syndications. A full-time self-employed realtor is a REP. But that doesn't mean the realtor can take passive losses spun off by the partnership.

      For the record, I regularly see financial planners sell syndications to realtors based on the mistaken idea realtor can use the losses.

  • Member since 2024 · 13 posts · 8 votes
    1y

    Thanks for your answers. I want to clarify further. I am a passive investor in the Self Storage Syndication (from which I got a depreciation K1 25K)while I hold a REPS status. I am a passive stock investor with an annual gain of 250K (for example). I don't have any profit from RE transactions, and I am passing all the losses via K1 as an active investor (40K Loss). 

    I want to see if I can Syndication depreciation can also be deducted from the passive gains from stocks?

  • MN · Member since 2025 · 107 posts · 97 votes
    1y

    Hey Mahender,

    Great question—and you’re thinking about it the right way.

    Since you’re a passive investor in the self-storage deal, those K-1 depreciation losses are considered passive under §469. And because stock gains (even short-term) are not passive income, you can’t use the real estate losses to offset them.

    But—those losses aren’t gone. They’re just suspended and carried forward until you have other passive income to offset (e.g. rental profits from another deal). And when the syndication eventually sells the asset, any remaining passive losses from that activity are fully unlocked and can offset all types of income—capital gains, W-2, etc.

    This is where working closely with your advisor can really pay off. There are ways to plan around timing—like realizing gains in years when you have passive income or triggering a disposition event—to make better use of those losses and improve your overall after-tax return.

    Hope that helps clarify things.

    • Member since 2025 · 2 posts · 0 votes
      1y

      @Dylan Brown hi I'm wondering what you are suggesting when you say after they sell the asset any passive losses from that activity can offset all types of income.

      It would be limited to recapture and other passive losses unless the losses are qualified as active, right?

    • Accountant , CPA, MBA in Finance, MS in Taxation · Redmond, WA · Member since 2025 · 172 posts · 135 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Matthew Gigantelli:

      @Dylan Brown hi I'm wondering what you are suggesting when you say after they sell the asset any passive losses from that activity can offset all types of income.

      It would be limited to recapture and other passive losses unless the losses are qualified as active, right?


      Suspended passive losses get released or "unsuspended" when the taxpayer disposes of the activity.

  • Member since 2025 · 7 posts · 8 votes
    1y

    Hello Mahender, while it seems like you should be able to take the gains from the sale of stock against the losses from your syndication investment as they are both passive, that is not the case.  This is because income from the sale of stocks, and other securities, as portfolio income under the current tax regulations.  Due to this distinction that the IRS draws you are not able to take the gains from the stock sale capital gains against the losses from depreciation for the syndication investment. 

  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    @Mahender Bist Unfortunately, depreciation losses from a real estate syndication (via a K-1) are considered passive losses, while stock gains—whether short- or long-term—are considered portfolio income, not passive. Under IRS rules, passive losses generally can’t offset portfolio income, including gains from stocks.

    Unless you qualify as a real estate professional or meet specific exceptions (like material participation in a short-term rental), those losses will carry forward and can only be used to offset future passive income or gains from the sale of the syndication interest. That said, those carryforward losses still have value in future years.

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  • Member since 2024 · 13 posts · 8 votes
    1y

    Thank you, everyone. The answers gave me a lot of clarity, and I really appreciate your valuable insights.

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