I hope everyone is having a great day. We purchased a home to be a STR and closed on it the first of April 2025. We worked on it, seems like forever but we took days off work and worked every weekend 12-15hrs a day until we had it ready about mid-July. It is about 2.5 hours' drive from our home and at times we drove separately hauling stuff back and forth. We have kept a log of it and what we done while there. We have over 500 hours with both of us and my 16-yr old daughter helped as well but it is my understanding she would not count. Depending on the places I have searched they say any work before it starts renting does not count or it does. Can someone clarify it for me. After we got it ready, we did hire a local management company and while we still go there every 6 weeks or so to continue updating things etc, I do not think we would be able to claim material participation in the years ahead while we have a management company. However, it would be nice if we could claim it this year with all the work and money we have spent. We basically took it down to the walls and everything is new. Thanks for your help.
Accountant · Shiloh, IL · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 10 votes
10mo
The key issue is when the property was considered “placed in service.” Any work done before that point doesn’t count toward material participation. The IRS looks at when the property was first ready and available for rent, not when you closed or started renovations.
So even though you put in 500+ hours, the time spent rehabbing, furnishing, and getting it guest-ready (April–July) would be considered startup activity, not participation in an active rental operation. Those hours don’t help you meet the 500-hour or majority-participation tests.
Once it is ready and listed for rent, your management and operational time starts to count. But if you hired a property manager and only go out there every six weeks, you’re probably not going to hit the material participation threshold in the current or future years.
All those renovation costs still get capitalized and depreciated — they’re not lost. But for material participation, only post-placed-in-service operational hours matter.
CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
10mo
Hey Benton!
From a tax perspective, the IRS typically allows pre-rental work (like the hours you spent getting the property ready) to count toward material participation if it’s directly related to getting the property ready for rent. So, the 500+ hours you worked could potentially count for this year.
Once you hire a property management company, it can be harder to meet material participation requirements, but if you're still heavily involved in maintaining and updating the property, it could help. Family members like your daughter don't count for material participation, though.
Just sent you a DM with a guide on this, might help clarify things further!
From a tax perspective, the IRS typically allows pre-rental work (like the hours you spent getting the property ready) to count toward material participation if it’s directly related to getting the property ready for rent. So, the 500+ hours you worked could potentially count for this year.
Once you hire a property management company, it can be harder to meet material participation requirements, but if you're still heavily involved in maintaining and updating the property, it could help. Family members like your daughter don't count for material participation, though.
Just sent you a DM with a guide on this, might help clarify things further!
You can count pre-rental hours if the work is directly tied to getting the property ready and available for rent repairs, renovations, setup, furnishing, deep cleaning, safety work, etc. The IRS allows these hours because the activity is in connection with the rental, even if guests haven’t stayed yet. The big caveat is that these hours must be real, hands-on, and well-documented, and they don’t count if they fall into “investor hours” (financial planning, research, supervising contractors). Your daughter’s hours don’t count, but the hours you and your spouse physically worked do. Once you hand things off to a management company, future years get tougher for material participation, so yes this first year is typically your strongest chance to meet the threshold.
And honestly, the fact that you’ve been logging everything is huge. I’ve been using automated tools to keep my own logs clean and organized, and it’s made the whole documentation side way less stressful especially for situations like yours where those pre-rental hours really matter.
I just sent you a DM, this might help you. Thank you