Buying commercial truck using self-directed IRA

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I have an opportunity to buy a commercial truck using my retirement account and then lease it out to an operator. I already have several people lined up who wish to lease it from me. I have general understanding of prohibited transaction rules and that I can not receive any personal benefits from investments of my IRA. I know that I can buy a rental property inside my 401k and rent it out. I want to get an opinion on my potential investment of a commercial vehicle. Do you see any issues with this, are there anything I need to be aware of, any potential pitfalls that I need to lookout for?

@Grace Huang

An IRA may own personal property such as a vehicle. As with any IRA investment, the key is keeping all transactions at arm's length.

The income from leasing personal property will likely be subject to UBTI taxation.  Check with a tax professional.

You will of course need to obtain insurance on the vehicle and any necessary licensing through the IRA.

Medium safeguard rgb stackedBrian Eastman, Safeguard Advisors | [email protected] | 855‑997‑2298 | http://www.ira123.com

I have helped more than one person do this in the past. Brian is accurate in his thoughts on UBTI. Best of luck!

@Grace Huang You can get around the UBIT issue with a solo 401k. If you own your own business with no full time employees other than yourself and your spouse, you may qualify to set one up.

For a list of disallowed IRA investments, see following link:

http://www.irs.gov/Retirement-Plans/Retirement-Plans-FAQs-regarding-IRAs-Investments

Medium mysolo 401k logoMark Nolan, My Solo 401k Financial | [email protected] | 800‑489‑7571 | https://www.mysolo401k.net/

Originally posted by @Adam Hershman :

@Grace Huang You can get around the UBIT issue with a solo 401k. If you own your own business with no full time employees other than yourself and your spouse, you may qualify to set one up.

Adam, income generated in a Solo 401k from the unrelated business activity would still be subject to UBIT.

Medium logo 19 1Dmitriy Fomichenko, Sense Financial | [email protected] | (949) 228‑9393 | https://www.sensefinancial.com/free-consultation/ | CA Agent # 01876563

UBIT still applies to a solo 401k unless it is a real estate non-recourse loan and the funds are not used for flipping real estate. 

Medium mysolo 401k logoMark Nolan, My Solo 401k Financial | [email protected] | 800‑489‑7571 | https://www.mysolo401k.net/

Originally posted by @Dmitriy Fomichenko :
Originally posted by @Adam Hershman:

@Grace Huang You can get around the UBIT issue with a solo 401k. If you own your own business with no full time employees other than yourself and your spouse, you may qualify to set one up.

Adam, income generated in a Solo 401k from the unrelated business activity would still be subject to UBIT.

 True story, was thinking UDFI!

Originally posted by @Dmitriy Fomichenko :

@Adam Hershman

UDFI is not applicable in Grace's situation. 

 Correct, I was mistakenly thinking of UDFI (not applicable to 401ks) when I made the incorrect comment about 401ks not being subject to UBIT (applicable to 401ks).