Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
3y
The best offense is a good defense so know your laws and both the rights for yourself and tenants and follow them and this will stop most lawsuits that have merit. I self manage so any competent lawyer is going to sue me anyway so I see no point in an llc and focus on a large insurance/umbrella policy to protect my assets. There is a lot of talk about getting sued and loosing everything but I have yet to see it happen and the only times I am aware of where it got bad for a landlord, they had it coming not following my first bit of advice. My lease is ever evolving as situations arise I didn’t anticipate but follow your lease, treat tenants fairly, and don’t be a generally bad person and you should be good. I’ve been threatened with a lot of suits for people who were mad they didn’t qualify or mad they didn’t deserve their deposit back but I’m still waiting on those papers to be served.
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
3y
The best offense is a good defense so know your laws and both the rights for yourself and tenants and follow them and this will stop most lawsuits that have merit. I self manage so any competent lawyer is going to sue me anyway so I see no point in an llc and focus on a large insurance/umbrella policy to protect my assets. There is a lot of talk about getting sued and loosing everything but I have yet to see it happen and the only times I am aware of where it got bad for a landlord, they had it coming not following my first bit of advice. My lease is ever evolving as situations arise I didn’t anticipate but follow your lease, treat tenants fairly, and don’t be a generally bad person and you should be good. I’ve been threatened with a lot of suits for people who were mad they didn’t qualify or mad they didn’t deserve their deposit back but I’m still waiting on those papers to be served.
To protect your interests once an incident occurs and/or you do get sued:
-LLCs and other entities can limit your exposure, but aren't always feasible (for example, when using conventional financing properties may need to be titled in your own name).
-Property and casualty Insurance for the property itself insures you for things like fire and storm damage (this doesn't really have anything to do with getting sued, but is obviously important)
-Maximize your liability coverage on your homeowners policy (liability coverage insures you against wrongful death, injury, or scarring of someone on your property). Most homeowner's policies will max out at $300k to $500k for liability coverage, which may not be enough in the event of a wrongful death or personal injury suit.
-Have an umbrella liability policy that kicks in where your homeowners coverage maxes out. $1M to $2M in coverage is fairly typical here.
Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
3y
Aloha,
Everything above is absolutely correct. However, in addition, IF you create a legal entity of any kind to hold your property in, you MUST be certain to always, always, always, sign documents properly and maintain records for the entity as the business that it should be.
What does that mean?
If you are a trustee, a limited partner, an officer of the corporation, or whatever your position or title is, you must sign in that capacity to prevent personal responsibility: John Jones, Trustee; Paul Smith, President, etc. When you ONLY sign as John Jones or Paul Smith without your position or title, you are signing as an individual, NOT as the Trustee or President etc. Google "Signing Capacity".
If you create, for example, a corporation, and do not maintain meeting minutes and other required business records for votes or other actions, you are not treating it as an actual business in the eyes of the law. LLC's and other entities also require registration with your state that must be kept current or re-submitted annually or biannually, often with a small fee. You must also file the proper tax forms annually (with proper, accurate accounting of expenses and income, of course). Always keep personal income and expenses clearly separate from all business funds, properly documenting transfers to or from you personally. There may be other requirements depending on the type of entity, and your locale. Trusts usually have provision for substitute Trustees, and may have requirements of the Trustees that must be followed. This info should be reviewed and updated periodically as well. (You should also have a copy of the "Short Form" Trust available for any required third party reviews, such as loan applications and certain contracts.)
In short, any failure to properly document, register, account for funds, or even something as seemingly unimportant as properly signing ANY document, can create an opportunity for "piercing the corporate veil" resulting in your personal liability with no recourse.
I cannot count the number of times Clients have come to us with no idea how they should sign documents; insurance or tax filings that do not match the owner of record (or each other), and generally poor records of tenant agreements/payments. They spent significant money to establish the entity, but years of improper documentation put their personal assets at high risk. Also, I would point out that virtually all of the above also applies to those of you on HOA Boards. Treat Business AS Business, and affix your proper signature for the entity you are acting on behalf of.
I'd like to know what a small size landlord does in order to protect them from being sued? Is there more than just putting your business in a LLC?
Make sure you are working with an attorney you trust and have this attorney draft you a lease/management agreement. When I first started out, I spent thousands on specific agreements for my operations (management agreement and lease agreement specifically). This has protected me throughout the years.
I'd like to know what a small size landlord does in order to protect them from being sued? Is there more than just putting your business in a LLC?
Know and obey the law. Seriously, that will protect you far more than an LLC or insurance. Most disputes between Tenant and Landlord are over security deposits. Know and obey the law, treat the Tenant fairly, and document everything. I manage 400 rentals and have never been sued once. Even if I were sued, I have all the documentation to back up my actions.
Real Estate Broker · San Antonio · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 489 votes
3y
Stay above board, always CYA and have a few good attorneys on hand. Even with that said, I have paid a ton of money just to be on the "right" side. Anyone will sue these days for anything. Good luck, happy investing!