Tenant removal services - anyone heard of them?

Tenant removal services - anyone heard of them?

Member since 2020 · 404 posts · 235 votes

I been talking to a realtor and another big property manager here in southern California and they both mentioned they have a service where it is very grey area in terms of getting a bad tenant out. The property manager wouldn't give me details but the realtor did. 

The realtor said what they do is they camp outside and see when the unit becomes vacant and they get in and remove all the tenants belongings and change the locks and then actually live there for a period of time with a valid lease. He told me the success rate is very good and they never had a problem. This sounds like it would work for a squatter situation but not for a valid tenant with a lease which is what I have. I asked him if i can get in trouble and sued after and he said it has never happened before. 


Does anyone have experience with this type of services? Its apparently popular enough that I heard it from two different sets of people.

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Drew SygitBusiness Member
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
8mo

@David P. Do you ever exceed the speed limit when driving a car?

How often are you ticketed?

Many speed, knowing their chances of getting a ticket are actually pretty low.

This MAY be similar, but the downside much worse.

If you illegally force out a tenant - you may get away with it - several times.

But, then you run into that one tenant that finds an attorney - and they sue. 

How do you think a judge or jury will look at your illegal removal, in a tenant-friendly state like California?
- I wouldn't be worried about the actual damages awarded, would be more concerned about the amount of punitive damages awarded!

Only YOU can weigh the risk-reward and make the decision since you are the one that will bear the potential consequences for your choices.

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  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    8mo

    @David P. Do you ever exceed the speed limit when driving a car?

    How often are you ticketed?

    Many speed, knowing their chances of getting a ticket are actually pretty low.

    This MAY be similar, but the downside much worse.

    If you illegally force out a tenant - you may get away with it - several times.

    But, then you run into that one tenant that finds an attorney - and they sue. 

    How do you think a judge or jury will look at your illegal removal, in a tenant-friendly state like California?
    - I wouldn't be worried about the actual damages awarded, would be more concerned about the amount of punitive damages awarded!

    Only YOU can weigh the risk-reward and make the decision since you are the one that will bear the potential consequences for your choices.

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8mo

    With an actual squatter you can give someone a lease and have them move in hopefully annoy them enough they leave, but if move their stuff out you open yourself up to lawsuits. In liberal cities could easy be hundreds of thousands in extra awarded damages. Don’t buy in bad sides of cities, I have never had any clients need to evict or deal with squatters. On the cheaper side of my city it happens all the time, some areas even have crazy 10% eviction rates. 

  • Kenneth GarrettPro Member
    Investor · Florida Panhandle/Illinois · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    8mo

    Illinois which is not landlord friendly just passed a new law this year (see below). California which is also not landlord friendly should do something similar. I find it amazing how a squatter has any legal right just by stealing possession of someone’s property. Is there no common sense. To make a landlord evict someone who has no legal to a property is criminal in itself.

    Illinois' new anti-squatter law, Senate Bill 1563, effective January 1, 2026, empowers police to remove unauthorized occupants (squatters) as criminal trespassers, bypassing lengthy civil eviction processes by clarifying that property owners can prove ownership to law enforcement to get squatters removed quickly. This change reclassifies squatters as trespassers, allowing quicker law enforcement action, and stops them from using tenant protections to delay removal.

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8mo

    That law is useless in IL. All the squatter needs to do is make a fake lease which the savvy ones have experience with and then the police won't remove them as trespassers. You can find the owner or LLC name on tax records to put on the lease easy. The only solution is don't buy in low class areas where this stuff is common.

  • James JonesPro Member
    Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 595 posts · 445 votes
    8mo

    Why this is extremely risky (especially in California)

    If the tenant has a valid lease or lawful possession, the actions you described are almost always illegal:

    Changing locks without a court order

    Removing tenant belongings

    Taking possession while the tenant still has legal occupancy

    “Waiting until they leave and moving in” without formal surrender

    In California, possession matters more than presence. A tenant does not lose rights just because they step out for work, travel, or a few days.

    If a tenant can show:

    A lease

    Utility usage

    Personal property inside

    Mail delivery

    Prior access

    You are exposed.

    Potential consequences (real, not theoretical)

    Landlords who attempt this can face:

    Statutory damages (often several times monthly rent)

    Treble damages in some jurisdictions

    Attorney’s fees for the tenant

    Punitive damages

    Criminal charges in extreme cases

    A judge who is already hostile before the case even starts

    In California, judges are not neutral on this issue.

    The realtor saying “it’s never happened before” is meaningless. All it takes is one tenant who knows their rights or calls Legal Aid.

    When this might be legal (very narrow scenarios)

    There are only a few situations where taking possession without eviction court is defensible:

    Clear abandonment, documented thoroughly

    No belongings

    Utilities off

    Written surrender

    Keys returned

    Squatters with no tenancy established, and even this is increasingly contested

    Post-eviction lockout, after a sheriff executes a writ

    What you described does not fit these categories if there is a valid lease.

    Why people still talk about it

    This “service” persists because:

    It sometimes works when tenants are unsophisticated

    Tenants don’t always fight back

    Enforcement is complaint-driven

    But when it fails, it fails badly.

    This is survivorship bias, not legality.

    The correct play in California

    If the tenant has a lease:

    Serve proper notice (pay or quit, cure or quit, etc.)

    File unlawful detainer

    Let the sheriff handle possession

    If timing or cash flow is the issue:

    Cash-for-keys, properly documented, is far safer

    Voluntary surrender agreements work if done correctly

    Mediation often resolves faster than court

    This is not a gray area for landlords.

    It’s only gray for people willing to gamble on tenants not fighting back.

    If someone is offering this as a “service,” they are shifting all legal risk to you, not them.

  • Property Manager · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2011 · 185 posts · 16 votes
    8mo

    I have seen this type service for squatters in the news. Basically they do the same thing or sometimes they sign a lease with the landlord and move while the squatter is still there; they occupy some part of the unit like a vacant space (basement), living room couch showing the signed lease from the landlord :-) (squatter don't have a signed lease so this new guy with the signed lease is actually has the right to stay in the house), play loud music, talk too loudly on the phone, watch TV while everyone is asleep etc. etc. so the squatter gets fed up and decides to leave. I have not heard of this service for tenant who is on the current lease i.e. someone whose rental payments are current. You have to provide more details about why the tenant is bad, specific breach of contract etc.

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