Buying flooring without getting ripped off

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I'm a big fan of Scott McGillvray and I know he's a fan of Kardean vinyl plank flooring. 

Only small independent flooring companies seem to carry it, and it certainly did look pretty good. But, it was also super expensive- you could buy real hardwood at those prices.

But, hardwood will get scratched and dented while these Kardean should be much more durable. 

Anybody ever bought Kardean and were they worth the price? Am I getting ripped off if I'm buying vinyl planks that will cost just as much as if I got hardwood. Did you find a way or place to buy them and installed more cheaply? The way those flooring stores operates seems so inefficient where they don't put the prices on the products and so you have to ask the price of each item anytime you're interested in something.

I know Home Depot sells a similar product with their Allure line, but I'm trying to position my place as a nicer rental so I don't know if Allure would be too cheap for the place. Plus, I wouldn't be able to DIY so that would add to the cost of installing Allure.

@Dana R.

I use allure on my rental, my tenant love them and look very good the quality is also good.

Hardwood is best. It can be refinished and last forever

There is a reason why the Kardean product is NOT sold at Lowes or HD @Dana R.

Allure can be a decent product, but because they give these two stores such a discount, no other normal store will sell that product.

In my area, I buy my flooring from Color Tile. It is independently owned and I can get better pricing than I can at Lowes or HD for similar products. Plus, the salespeople are far more knowledgeable about these products than anyone at Lowes or HD.

In fact, I have been turned onto Mannington Adura LVP/LVT which has some awesome visuals. IVC is another pretty sweet line to check out. There are other lines as well...

You do get what you pay for. There is entry level, mid, and high end products. The visuals on those products will look better and better the higher you go.

Very few builders in my area purchase goods from HD or Lowes. We go locally and get better deals.

In a rental, I'd go with LVP over hardwood. There are some pretty sweet LVP's out there. And, if you have a scratch, you only need to replace the affected piece. Hardwood would take a professional a lot longer, and cost more $$ to fix.

Good luck!

JD

Originally posted by @Gerald David :

In my area, I buy my flooring from Color Tile. It is independently owned and I can get better pricing than I can at Lowes or HD for similar products. Plus, the salespeople are far more knowledgeable about these products than anyone at Lowes or HD.

JD

 Are you haggling with them on price or getting a special discount based on volume or something? When dealing with these small independent shops, you're able to negotiate a better price whereas you can't do that with HD or Lowe's?

My issue with the salespeople even at the specialist flooring places is sometimes I think they tell you what you want to hear. Or, they will deny well known issues by claiming they've never heard of anybody complaining about that issue. I know vinyl planks are ideal for basements because there's no sunlight and you need to worry about too much light affecting vinyl planks. Yet, when I ask about that, they all claim it won't be an issue. 

I'm assuming you can negotiate with independent flooring companies while you can't negotiate with the big box retailers. How much leeway can you get with those small stores, something like 5-10%?

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