Issues with newly acquired property

Issues with newly acquired property

Auburn, ME · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 2 votes

I recently closed on a property that needs some extensive work to be brought up to minimum standards of habitation. The previous owner was a true slumlord and did some very shoddy work throughout. Specifically, he added an illegal fourth unit. The city eventually found out about it (when he attempted to add a fifth illegal unit, which is now a "laundry room"), and shut it down. His solution? To put two different groups of people on one lease, sort of.

My problem is this: I have tenant group A who is saying that tenant group B (in the former illegal unit) is not paying their half of the rent. However, only tenant group A is on the lease. I'd like to get rid of the folks who are not paying, because they have also been violating the lease in other ways such as removing the smoke detectors. Tenant group A was told by the previous owner that I would fix this situation, which I find hilarious.

Should I evict the entire group and then turn around and sign a new lease with the group who actually is paying? I am eventually going to get rid of all the tenants and then screen my own, but would like to keep most of them there for now as I rehab one unit as a time and keep their rents to cover the carrying costs. Open to ideas from other folks.

For what it's worth, I am working with city code to try and add back that fourth unit, which would be fairly simple so long as I get the thumbs up to do it. 

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  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    7y

    First I would get working smoke detectors through the property.

    Sounds like if the place was run by a slum lord you need to get everyone out so you can bring the entire place up to acceptable standards.

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    7y

    I agree with John. Get everyone out. The tenants are used to dealing with a slumlord, which will only cause problems in the future. Get them out, fix it up, and rent it out to good tenants.

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  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Sam Scogin:

    I recently closed on a property that needs some extensive work to be brought up to minimum standards of habitation. The previous owner was a true slumlord and did some very shoddy work throughout. Specifically, he added an illegal fourth unit. The city eventually found out about it (when he attempted to add a fifth illegal unit, which is now a "laundry room"), and shut it down. His solution? To put two different groups of people on one lease, sort of.

    My problem is this: I have tenant group A who is saying that tenant group B (in the former illegal unit) is not paying their half of the rent. However, only tenant group A is on the lease. I'd like to get rid of the folks who are not paying, because they have also been violating the lease in other ways such as removing the smoke detectors. Tenant group A was told by the previous owner that I would fix this situation, which I find hilarious.

    Should I evict the entire group and then turn around and sign a new lease with the group who actually is paying? I am eventually going to get rid of all the tenants and then screen my own, but would like to keep most of them there for now as I rehab one unit as a time and keep their rents to cover the carrying costs. Open to ideas from other folks.

    For what it's worth, I am working with city code to try and add back that fourth unit, which would be fairly simple so long as I get the thumbs up to do it. 

     Don't play the group A is responsible for this % of the rent & group B this % of the rent game. There is 1 rental unit, therefore there is 1 rental payment. If 100% of the rent isn't paid then 100% of the tenants living in the unit get evicted. Your job is to collect 100% of the rent, do not involved yourself in disputes between roommates. Their problems are not your problems.

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    7y

    On a side note.

    They make smoke detectors that have a push button in the middle you can push if there is a false alert such as from cooking. It quiets the unit immediately. (ending the need to take them down).

    Also they expire in 10 years (there should be a date label on them), and if you want, you can get 10 year no battery replacement models.

    Good Luck!

  • Auburn, ME · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    I am familiar with how smoke detectors work (they all have a button to turn them off)--the tenants removed them in every room because they are smokers, not because they are trying new cuisine and things went sideways. 

    Unfortunately, I need the rents to cover the carrying costs on the building while I rehab the rest of it. With the state that the building as a whole is in and the units specifically, there is no way I would be able to get a higher caliber of tenant in to any of the building with it as is. 

    Code enforcement is showing up tomorrow to assist me in making the unit(s) conforming--hopefully they will be able to shed some light. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Fairfield, CT · Member since 2015 · 312 posts · 231 votes
    7y

    Agree with notion above of vacating the building. While it works in theory to renovate one unit at a time and "upgrade" the class of tenants... in practice, the presence of the existing tenants will make it difficult to get and maintain the upgraded tenants in the single unit - despite the unit itself being upgraded. Anything beyond that is going to put you in a difficult position.

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