The real reason STR deals that worked in 2021 don't work now

The real reason STR deals that worked in 2021 don't work now

Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes

Been digging into why so many STR investors are underwater on deals that looked solid 3-4 years ago. The answer isn't the market softening. It's that the math was never real to begin with.

In 2021 three things were true simultaneously that have never been true at the same time before and likely won't be again:

Mortgage rates were at historic lows 3% to 4% on investment properties. STR demand was surging post-COVID with occupancy rates hitting 70%+ in markets that normally run 50-55%. And home prices hadn't yet adjusted upward to reflect STR income potential.

That window lasted about 18 months. Every deal underwritten during that period was built on a foundation that required all three conditions to hold. None of them held.

Rates are now 7.5%+ on investment properties. National STR occupancy is averaging around 50% down significantly from the peak. And home prices in most STR markets are still near their highs because sellers haven't adjusted expectations yet.

The investors in trouble aren't bad investors. They underwrote deals correctly for the market conditions that existed. The problem is those conditions were a once in a generation anomaly, not a new normal.

What this means for anyone evaluating STR deals in 2026:

The underwriting has to be built on current rates, current occupancy data for your specific market, and current insurance costs not 2021 comps. A deal that cash flowed at 4% rates and 65% occupancy may be deeply negative at 7.5% rates and 52% occupancy. The math is not forgiving at current financing costs.

The markets that still work are the ones where entry prices are low enough that the debt service is manageable even at current rates smaller Midwest and secondary Southern markets where you can buy in at $150,000-$200,000 and still generate $2,500-$3,500 per month in STR income.

Anyone else seeing this pattern in deals they're evaluating right now?

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Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
5mo

I don't agree that they underwrote deals correctly for the market conditions that existed. The market conditions were greatly inflated and most experienced investors understood this and realized better than to underwrite based on temporary grossly inflated numbers. Realtors and builders knew this too, not all but some of them continued to "help" new investors with faulty underwriting based on that inflated market.

I think most of the people that are underwater were inexperienced investors, jumping in based on FOMO, and also being pumped by realtors and builders and the market hype. I think many were first time investors that based on all the hype, plus inexperience, plus realtors/builders trying to make that next sale, made these deals.

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  • Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5mo

    I don't agree that they underwrote deals correctly for the market conditions that existed. The market conditions were greatly inflated and most experienced investors understood this and realized better than to underwrite based on temporary grossly inflated numbers. Realtors and builders knew this too, not all but some of them continued to "help" new investors with faulty underwriting based on that inflated market.

    I think most of the people that are underwater were inexperienced investors, jumping in based on FOMO, and also being pumped by realtors and builders and the market hype. I think many were first time investors that based on all the hype, plus inexperience, plus realtors/builders trying to make that next sale, made these deals.

    • John UnderwoodPro Member
      Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Ken Boone:

      I don't agree that they underwrote deals correctly for the market conditions that existed. The market conditions were greatly inflated and most experienced investors understood this and realized better than to underwrite based on temporary grossly inflated numbers. Realtors and builders knew this too, not all but some of them continued to "help" new investors with faulty underwriting based on that inflated market.

      I think most of the people that are underwater were inexperienced investors, jumping in based on FOMO, and also being pumped by realtors and builders and the market hype. I think many were first time investors that based on all the hype, plus inexperience, plus realtors/builders trying to make that next sale, made these deals.


       I 100% agree with Ken!

      People were still chasing the shining object that was STR's. They didn't run the numbers correctly and they didn't leave enough buffer incase there numbers were off or the market changed.

      Why are so many people writing Thesis papers on STR's? Have they found AI and are having fun whipping out topics and then asking a question at the end?

    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Ken Boone:

      I don't agree that they underwrote deals correctly for the market conditions that existed. The market conditions were greatly inflated and most experienced investors understood this and realized better than to underwrite based on temporary grossly inflated numbers. Realtors and builders knew this too, not all but some of them continued to "help" new investors with faulty underwriting based on that inflated market.

      I think most of the people that are underwater were inexperienced investors, jumping in based on FOMO, and also being pumped by realtors and builders and the market hype. I think many were first time investors that based on all the hype, plus inexperience, plus realtors/builders trying to make that next sale, made these deals.

      That's a fair point experienced operators absolutely knew better than to underwrite on peak numbers. The FOMO driven pile in was real and predictable in hindsight. What I'd add though even investors who underwrote conservatively got squeezed when the correction hit simultaneously on multiple fronts rate increases, insurance spikes, and oversaturation in the same 18-month window. That convergence wasn't fully priced in anywhere. The underwriting wasn't always wrong. The timing risk was.
    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @John Underwood:
      Quote from @Ken Boone:

      I don't agree that they underwrote deals correctly for the market conditions that existed. The market conditions were greatly inflated and most experienced investors understood this and realized better than to underwrite based on temporary grossly inflated numbers. Realtors and builders knew this too, not all but some of them continued to "help" new investors with faulty underwriting based on that inflated market.

      I think most of the people that are underwater were inexperienced investors, jumping in based on FOMO, and also being pumped by realtors and builders and the market hype. I think many were first time investors that based on all the hype, plus inexperience, plus realtors/builders trying to make that next sale, made these deals.


       I 100% agree with Ken!

      People were still chasing the shining object that was STR's. They didn't run the numbers correctly and they didn't leave enough buffer incase there numbers were off or the market changed.

      Why are so many people writing Thesis papers on STR's? Have they found AI and are having fun whipping out topics and then asking a question at the end?

      Appreciate the perspective John the underwriting piece is exactly why this topic matters. And no AI, just someone who does the research and likes talking through it here.
    • New to Real Estate · Bristol IL · Member since 2018 · 24 posts · 10 votes
      5mo

      @John Underwood my realtor was like hey I owned in this building you can bump your numbers by a lot. Fortunately I only half listened. I would be underwater on my first investment. Since I still held back a little I just don't make much at all. Learned the hard way the realtors aren't your friend. Especially after the sale. 

  • Investor · VA AZ, SC · Member since 2017 · 172 posts · 172 votes
    5mo

    You are correct about the deal math. 

    The macro environment is challenging, and I think it will have slightly positive impacts on domestic STRs. With gas and jet fuel prices rising and the risk of conflict increasing in Europe, there will likely be many more households who decide to go drive somewhere for vacation trips. Rather than thinking of these challenges as a bear market, I think it will be a bust more bullish for STR operators than most expect. This will help lift the occupancy side of the equation.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Ian Tyndall:

      You are correct about the deal math. 

      The macro environment is challenging, and I think it will have slightly positive impacts on domestic STRs. With gas and jet fuel prices rising and the risk of conflict increasing in Europe, there will likely be many more households who decide to go drive somewhere for vacation trips. Rather than thinking of these challenges as a bear market, I think it will be a bust more bullish for STR operators than most expect. This will help lift the occupancy side of the equation.

      That's an interesting take and I think there's real data to support it. Drive to markets and regional STRs tend to outperform when international travel gets expensive or uncertain we saw a version of that post-2020. The occupancy lift is real. The challenge is whether improved occupancy moves the needle enough when you're also carrying higher debt service, insurance, and operating costs than 2021 operators were. The math works in the right markets. Supply constrained drive to destinations with strong regional demand are probably the play right now.
  • Interior Decorator · Member since 2025 · 82 posts · 42 votes
    5mo

    I'm also going to interject that design has pivoted and owners have stepped up their game and offerings. So what worked on the "end of covid" doesn't work anymore. People don't want to stay at STR's that look their homes or grandparent's homes. IMO.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Account Closed:

      I'm also going to interject that design has pivoted and owners have stepped up their game and offerings. So what worked on the "end of covid" doesn't work anymore. People don't want to stay at STR's that look their homes or grandparent's homes. IMO.


       Great point Nicole the design bar has moved significantly. What passed as premium in 2021 is table stakes now, and that renovation and refresh cost is another expense most operators never built into their original underwriting.

    • Interior Decorator · Member since 2025 · 82 posts · 42 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @David Totten:
      Quote from @Account Closed:

      I'm also going to interject that design has pivoted and owners have stepped up their game and offerings. So what worked on the "end of covid" doesn't work anymore. People don't want to stay at STR's that look their homes or grandparent's homes. IMO.


       Great point Nicole the design bar has moved significantly. What passed as premium in 2021 is table stakes now, and that renovation and refresh cost is another expense most operators never built into their original underwriting.

      Absolutely. And I am on the tail end of that with owners having to work it out with them that this is a not a "might need" and a "should have worked it into your budget" as part of the overall purchase and setting up of an STR. Great design can ensure more consistent ROI when all the parts work: location, property, design, customer service.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Account Closed:
      Quote from @David Totten:
      Quote from @Account Closed:

      I'm also going to interject that design has pivoted and owners have stepped up their game and offerings. So what worked on the "end of covid" doesn't work anymore. People don't want to stay at STR's that look their homes or grandparent's homes. IMO.


       Great point Nicole the design bar has moved significantly. What passed as premium in 2021 is table stakes now, and that renovation and refresh cost is another expense most operators never built into their original underwriting.

      Absolutely. And I am on the tail end of that with owners having to work it out with them that this is a not a "might need" and a "should have worked it into your budget" as part of the overall purchase and setting up of an STR. Great design can ensure more consistent ROI when all the parts work: location, property, design, customer service.


       Exactly design isn't an amenity anymore, it's infrastructure. The operators who built it into their budget from day one are the ones still performing.

    • Interior Decorator · Member since 2025 · 82 posts · 42 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @David Totten:
      Quote from @Account Closed:
      Quote from @David Totten:
      Quote from @Account Closed:

      I'm also going to interject that design has pivoted and owners have stepped up their game and offerings. So what worked on the "end of covid" doesn't work anymore. People don't want to stay at STR's that look their homes or grandparent's homes. IMO.


       Great point Nicole the design bar has moved significantly. What passed as premium in 2021 is table stakes now, and that renovation and refresh cost is another expense most operators never built into their original underwriting.

      Absolutely. And I am on the tail end of that with owners having to work it out with them that this is a not a "might need" and a "should have worked it into your budget" as part of the overall purchase and setting up of an STR. Great design can ensure more consistent ROI when all the parts work: location, property, design, customer service.


       Exactly design isn't an amenity anymore, it's infrastructure. The operators who built it into their budget from day one are the ones still performing.

      Stealing that quote from you. Infrastructure! Brilliant David!

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    5mo

    Of course, many of them do not work right now. The majority of the reason is that people are buying properties to use for short-term rentals in areas that did not support short-term rentals during COVID. That was a one-off event. Now that we're back to a "normal" society, people are consistently taught not to underwrite only on a short-term rental and to make sure it works as a long-term rental. Everyone got caught up in the FOMO and wants to be in real estate and forget that it's a long game. Just because something makes money in the first several months doesn't mean it has to consistently make money. Now many of those people are paying the price, but this was so obvious to see for anyone who has experience in real estate back when this was occurring. 

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    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      Of course, many of them do not work right now. The majority of the reason is that people are buying properties to use for short-term rentals in areas that did not support short-term rentals during COVID. That was a one-off event. Now that we're back to a "normal" society, people are consistently taught not to underwrite only on a short-term rental and to make sure it works as a long-term rental. Everyone got caught up in the FOMO and wants to be in real estate and forget that it's a long game. Just because something makes money in the first several months doesn't mean it has to consistently make money. Now many of those people are paying the price, but this was so obvious to see for anyone who has experience in real estate back when this was occurring. 


       Well said Chris the dual-purpose underwriting lesson is the one that should have been standard from day one. The part that surprised many even experienced operators was how fast the correction hit across multiple cost centers simultaneously. Rate compression alone was manageable. Rate compression plus insurance spikes plus oversupply in the same window is what caught people off guard.

  • Andrew SteffensBusiness Member
    Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5mo

    What are you seeing on the higher end / larger home data? I have a list of about 300 or so buyers and I would say less than 10% can go near or over $1M.  The larger and/or more luxurious houses are a higher barrier to entry plus less exist so more times than not they still pencil out.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Andrew Steffens:

      What are you seeing on the higher end / larger home data? I have a list of about 300 or so buyers and I would say less than 10% can go near or over $1M.  The larger and/or more luxurious houses are a higher barrier to entry plus less exist so more times than not they still pencil out.

      That tracks Andrew the data supports it. Higher end properties benefit from limited supply, less price sensitive guests, and a higher barrier to entry that keeps competition in check. The real pain has been concentrated in mid tier markets where supply exploded post 2020 and guests have more options at every price point. The $1M+ filter you're describing is actually one of the stronger natural moats left in STR right now.
  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    5mo

    STR is a BUSINESS. When real estate INVESTORS treat it like an investment, instead of a business, the analysis goes off the rails. Investors in STR continually disregard MANAGEMENT cost - which actually runs 15 - 40% for STR. Many plug in 5 - 10%, same as LTR, or disregard all together with the theory they can self manage, with full time employment elsewhere. If they continue to self manage while being employed full time, a LOT falls between the cracks, costing lost revenue/higher expenses as great or greater than the 25% management fee savings.

    Look, most people purchasing SFR who lack extensive experience and knowledge leave out numerous expenses, including true capex. So it's no surprise that in most STR analysis expenses are underestimated, revenues projected on a best case scenario, and true operating income grossly disappointing. Add high leverage and 7 -8% interest, and the results are often not pretty.

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    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Don Konipol:

      STR is a BUSINESS. When real estate INVESTORS treat it like an investment, instead of a business, the analysis goes off the rails. Investors in STR continually disregard MANAGEMENT cost - which actually runs 15 - 40% for STR. Many plug in 5 - 10%, same as LTR, or disregard all together with the theory they can self manage, with full time employment elsewhere. If they continue to self manage while being employed full time, a LOT falls between the cracks, costing lost revenue/higher expenses as great or greater than the 25% management fee savings.

      Look, most people purchasing SFR who lack extensive experience and knowledge leave out numerous expenses, including true capex. So it's no surprise that in most STR analysis expenses are underestimated, revenues projected on a best case scenario, and true operating income grossly disappointing. Add high leverage and 7 -8% interest, and the results are often not pretty.


      That's the most overlooked number in STR underwriting Don management cost. Everyone benchmarks against LTR at 8-10% and the gap between that and true STR operating cost is where deals quietly fall apart. Pair that with 7-8% debt service and best case revenue projections and the margin for error essentially disappeared.

  • Property Manager · Chattanooga, TN · Member since 2018 · 175 posts · 134 votes
    5mo

    I'm seeing the same thing.  I underwrite many properties for potential clients, and they don't cash flow at 2026 prices and rates.  I always run the numbers conservatively, under-promise, and over-deliver.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Tyler Divin:

      I'm seeing the same thing.  I underwrite many properties for potential clients, and they don't cash flow at 2026 prices and rates.  I always run the numbers conservatively, under-promise, and over-deliver.


       That conservative approach is exactly what separates operators who are still standing from those who aren't. Under promise, over deliver works until the market does it for you.

  • Bianca BarcelosBusiness Member
    NH · Member since 2026 · 82 posts · 43 votes
    5mo

    @Don Konipol well said - as always, strategy matters. STR is a different strategy than a LTR or even MTR. It takes a different level of attention and structure to make it successful. There is definitely factors per geography or per deal that make these work (or not) but it's not impossible.

    I've been interested in getting into STR (I have LTR and MTR right now) but I'm trying to follow the trends and the restrictions per area in the mountains/lakes of NH where I'm looking.

    Interested in hearing stories from others about using a property management company or not - for a short term stay, I imagine the cost of the PM eats into the profits a bit more here than your traditional "investment" (especially with today's prices and rates).  

    It's lower margin math, but some deals still work really well!

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    • Interior Decorator · Member since 2025 · 82 posts · 42 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Bianca Barcelos:

      @Don Konipol well said - as always, strategy matters. STR is a different strategy than a LTR or even MTR. It takes a different level of attention and structure to make it successful. There is definitely factors per geography or per deal that make these work (or not) but it's not impossible.

      I've been interested in getting into STR (I have LTR and MTR right now) but I'm trying to follow the trends and the restrictions per area in the mountains/lakes of NH where I'm looking.

      Interested in hearing stories from others about using a property management company or not - for a short term stay, I imagine the cost of the PM eats into the profits a bit more here than your traditional "investment" (especially with today's prices and rates).  

      It's lower margin math, but some deals still work really well!

      Bianca — I am in Maine if you need help once you find a NH property. I have worked in NH, vacation there and am very familiar with how to set a property apart.

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    5mo

    The basis of this post is also true of ALL rental purchases, STR, MTR & LTR!

    A lot of newbie investors chasing ROI w/o properly factoring RISK😌

    • Real Estate Consultant · Barstow, CA · Member since 2026 · 86 posts · 59 votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Drew Sygit:

      The basis of this post is also true of ALL rental purchases, STR, MTR & LTR!

      A lot of newbie investors chasing ROI w/o properly factoring RISK😌


      Exactly Drew the risk miscalculation isn't STR specific, it's an investor mindset problem. STR just exposed it faster because the margin for error was thinner and the correction hit harder.

    • Don KonipolBusiness Member
      Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
      5mo
      Quote from @Drew Sygit:

      The basis of this post is also true of ALL rental purchases, STR, MTR & LTR!

      A lot of newbie investors chasing ROI w/o properly factoring RISK😌

      “A lot of newbie investors chasing ROI w/o properly factoring RISK😌”

      Nail on head!  Been this way for all my 50 years in real estate 
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  • Rental Property Investor · Emmaus, PA · Member since 2021 · 152 posts · 85 votes
    5mo

    Very insightful - I didn't get into STR specifically because of this. I knew there was going to be a pull back and I didn't want to be on the wrong end of it when it occurred. I have heard that there are similar issues occurring in some self storage markets as well.

  • Cliff H.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Nashua, NH · Member since 2014 · 587 posts · 477 votes
    5mo

    Low rates. Higher occupancy. Less supply. And far, far lower prices. All factors.

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