New seeking advice !

New seeking advice !

Member since 2025 · 6 posts · 10 votes

Hi everyone, I’m new to the BiggerPockets community and just starting out with real estate investing.

I’m planning to invest out of state, and I’d love to connect with people who have done it successfully. I’ve been doing a ton of research, running numbers, and trying to learn as much as possible—but with how competitive things are, it’s been tough to feel confident choosing the right market.

So far, I’ve been looking closely at St. Louis, but I’ve also been keeping an eye on Tennessee, which seems really promising too. I’m just trying to make sure I don’t go all-in on the wrong area and miss out on better opportunities elsewhere.

If you’ve had success with out-of-state investing, I’d really appreciate any insight on:

• How you chose your market

• How you found solid deals in competitive areas

• What helped your best deals come together (strong team, financing, strategy, etc.)

• How you’re currently sourcing off-market or BRRRR-friendly properties

I’m trying to move forward without rushing into a bad deal. Any advice, resources, or stories would go a long way. Thanks in advance for the support!

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Kerlous TadresBusiness Member
Realtor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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You're on the right track, doing research and running numbers, and confidence comes with clarity. When I chose my out-of-state markets, I focused on landlord-friendly states with solid rent-to-price ratios and local teams I could trust. In competitive areas, such as parts of Tennessee, having an investor-savvy agent and contractor ready made a huge difference. My best BRRRRs came from networking with wholesalers and local PMs who had the inside scoop on tired landlords or distressed properties. Don’t rush, solid deals come from good systems, not speed.

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  • Kerlous TadresBusiness Member
    Realtor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    You're on the right track, doing research and running numbers, and confidence comes with clarity. When I chose my out-of-state markets, I focused on landlord-friendly states with solid rent-to-price ratios and local teams I could trust. In competitive areas, such as parts of Tennessee, having an investor-savvy agent and contractor ready made a huge difference. My best BRRRRs came from networking with wholesalers and local PMs who had the inside scoop on tired landlords or distressed properties. Don’t rush, solid deals come from good systems, not speed.

    Kerlous Tadres | Reafco Real Estate542 Reviews
  • Jimmy LieuBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Christopher DEsposito:

    Hi everyone, I’m new to the BiggerPockets community and just starting out with real estate investing.

    I’m planning to invest out of state, and I’d love to connect with people who have done it successfully. I’ve been doing a ton of research, running numbers, and trying to learn as much as possible—but with how competitive things are, it’s been tough to feel confident choosing the right market.

    So far, I’ve been looking closely at St. Louis, but I’ve also been keeping an eye on Tennessee, which seems really promising too. I’m just trying to make sure I don’t go all-in on the wrong area and miss out on better opportunities elsewhere.

    If you’ve had success with out-of-state investing, I’d really appreciate any insight on:

    • How you chose your market

    • How you found solid deals in competitive areas

    • What helped your best deals come together (strong team, financing, strategy, etc.)

    • How you're currently sourcing off-market or BRRRR-friendly properties

    I’m trying to move forward without rushing into a bad deal. Any advice, resources, or stories would go a long way. Thanks in advance for the support!

    Hey Christopher, welcome to the world of real estate investing! If you're just starting out, one of the best things you can do is focus on a market that gives you room to make mistakes without losing your shirt—and ideally one that still cash flows well with strong long-term upside. I’d seriously recommend taking a look at Columbus, Ohio. A lot of out-of-state investors I know are putting their money here because the fundamentals are so solid—population is growing fast, job growth is strong, and huge companies like Intel, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Honda, Microsoft, and more are building and expanding here. The Intel development alone is a $26 billion project that’s creating a ton of jobs and attracting even more growth. Despite all that, prices are still affordable—you can find single family homes in the $120k to $180k range that rent for $1,200 to $1,800/month, easily hitting the 1% rule with positive cash flow. It’s also very landlord-friendly compared to a lot of other markets, and there’s a lot of appreciation upside over the next 5–10 years. Happy to connect and answer any questions you have! 

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    @Sam McCormack Thank you Sam 

  • Memphis, TN · Member since 2024 · 234 posts · 100 votes
    1y

    Hey @Christopher DEsposito!

    Great to see you doing the homework upfront, and you're definitely not alone in feeling the pressure of picking the “right” market. St. Louis has its strengths, but since you’re eyeing Tennessee too, I’d definitely suggest taking a closer look at Memphis. It’s one of the few markets where you can still find renovated, rent-ready properties in the $100K–$150K range, with strong rental demand, landlord-friendly laws, and solid property management options that make out-of-state investing much more doable.

    What's helped a lot of new investors succeed here is partnering with a team that handles everything under one roof! Acquisition, renovation, leasing, and long-term management. That structure cuts out a lot of the usual friction, especially if you're going the BRRRR route. For finding deals, a local team that specializes in working with investors (not just retail buyers) makes all the difference, especially when inventory is tight. Happy to share what's working in Memphis and how others are getting started without rushing into something that doesn't make sense. You're asking the right questions! Just keep pushing forward!

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1y

    @Christopher DEsposito

    Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location/neighborhoods to invest in.

    Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?

    Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.

    The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

    Both Property Class and Tenant Class affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies will work on a property.

    If you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will rent it?

    Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

    So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met and it may even be a financial disaster.

    We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:

    • Property Tenant Pool: closely linked to location, but not always.
    • Property Location: closely linked to tenant pool, but not always.
    • Property Condition & Amenities: it’s important to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood.”

    Key metrics for each Property Class:

    Class A Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
    Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
    Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.

    Class B Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
    Tenant Default
    : 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Vacancies
    : 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
    Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.

    Class C Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
    Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
    Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

    Class D Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
    Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.

    Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
    Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.

    Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?

    Check out this chart:

    FICO Score

    Pct of Population

    Default Probability

    800 or more

    13.00%

    1.00%

    750-799

    27.00%

    1.00%

    700-749

    18.00%

    4.40%

    650-699

    15.00%

    8.90%

    600-649

    12.00%

    15.80%

    550-599

    8.00%

    22.50%

    500-549

    5.00%

    28.40%

    Less than 499

    2.00%

    41.00%

    Source: Fair Isaac Company

    Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

    Metro Detroit has 132 cities, the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying. Check out the map on our website where we’ve made this all easy to follow.

    We can also share numerous examples of properties & portfolios we’ve assisted investors with!

    DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!

  • Julio GonzalezPro Member
    Specialist · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Welcome to the BP community! You're asking all the right questions. Out-of-state investing can be powerful with the right team in place.

    -Julio

  • Real Estate Broker · New York, NY · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    To keep it simple: pick your market based on landlord laws, job growth, and local connections. Build a local team you trust (agent, contractor, property manager). And don’t chase every deal — focus on one area and learn it well.

  • Mackaylee BeachPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 494 votes
    1y

    What is your primary financial goal?

    Starting in a specific location can be an excellent way to kick off your journey. By focusing on a particular neighborhood, you can gain in-depth knowledge of its dynamics, pricing trends, and tenant preferences. This localized insight will enable you to make well-informed decisions and potentially discover opportunities that others may miss. Furthermore, fostering strong relationships with your team will allow you to tap into their expertise and support, leading to a more seamless and efficient property management experience. Remember, in real estate investment, it's all about quality over quantity.

    I would be delighted to connect if you ever consider the Kansas City market. Our city is experiencing rapid growth, and investment opportunities are flourishing.

  • Real Estate Agent · Nashville, TN · Member since 2025 · 126 posts · 62 votes
    1y

    Welcome to BiggerPockets, and props to you for doing your homework before jumping in!

    I invest in Middle Tennessee and work with out-of-state investors regularly, so I can definitely relate to the challenges of picking the right market and building confidence from a distance.

    Here’s what I’ve seen work well:

    • Choosing a market: Focus on areas with steady population/job growth, landlord-friendly laws, and strong rental demand. Tennessee checks a lot of those boxes, especially around Nashville and surrounding cities.

    • Finding deals: In competitive areas, off-market properties are key. I work directly with wholesalers, agents, and other investors to uncover deals before they hit the MLS.

    • Making it work: The best deals usually come together with a reliable local team—contractors, PMs, and agents who know the area and can move fast. Having boots on the ground makes a huge difference.

    • Sourcing BRRRR deals: Relationships are everything. I stay in touch with wholesalers and sometimes bring them my criteria so they can bring me targeted opportunities.

    If Tennessee stays on your radar, happy to connect or help however I can. Wishing you the best as you take the next steps!

    Zapa
    Middle TN Investment agent | Fix & Flip | Buy & Hold

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