Newbie from Boston: conventional or FHA loan on Multifamily

Newbie from Boston: conventional or FHA loan on Multifamily

Stoneham, MA · Member since 2013 · 2 posts · 0 votes

Hi everyone!

Just found/joined BP a few weeks ago and have been reading up and learning a lot! My husband and I are looking to buy our first home soon and are planning on buying a duplex and occupying one of the units.

We're looking in Arlington, Watertown, and West Medford/Somerville/Cambridge. Our plan is to live there for 5-7 years and then move into a single-family and continue to rent both units. Eventually we would like to buy a couple other multifamily rentals. This is more for long-term investment/retirement.

We started looking into mortgages and found out that we need a minimum of a 15% down payment for a conventional mortgage. The other option would be to do an FHA loan, but we weren't to excited to pay all the extra fees that go along with that. We are both Engineers and have strong credit scores as well as making a pretty good income. We have quite a bit saved and are continuing to add, so we will probably have the 15% we need in about a year.

I've seen a lot of people posting about using FHA loans on this site so I'm wondering if there are more advantages we aren't aware of. We would like to get started sooner than later, but if waiting another year will save us a ton of money in the long run then it seems worth it.

Thanks!
Corrie

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  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y

    Hey Corrie A. welcome to the site! Great plan on buying a duplex - it will be a great learning experience, plus a great investment for your future as well. FHA loans are super helpful, but they are annoying with all the red tape! Plus, if you don't put down 20%, you'll have PMI which can add a bit to your expenses.

    Also, for landlording tips, check out my article How to Be a Landlord: Ten Tips for Success

  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    13y

    Past June of 2013 you will be stuck with the FHA mortgage insurance forever regardless of the value of the property down the road.

    FHA has been given a mandate by the government to replenish their losses from foreclosures the last few years. The result is the mortgage insurance rate going from .5 to now after multiple rate hikes is at 1.3 for most borrowers.

    FHA is now making the good borrowers pay for the past sins of the defaulters who had the low insurance. For this reason and the fact mortgage insurance is fixing to be forever for the life of the loan with FHA many are now looking at conventional.

    You have to put more down but insurance is less and you save. Conventional won't work for buyers who only want to use a gift for down payment as conventional you have to have some of your own money down unlike FHA.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    13y

    I just purchased a fourplex with a FHA 203K rehab loan. I was sort of stuck due to the rehab loan part but if I could have avoided it it would have been nice. It was a lot of paperwork, I mean more than you could ever imagine and I am single with zero debt and three bank accounts. As simple as it gets.

    Luckily I can kill that PMI within a year with some tricks and due to buying very low.

    The one nice thing is even with PMI, my ultra low down payment means I will have all of my money invested out of this property in 16 months.

    Balance out the pros and cons. If you can close before that cut off Joel mentioned it could work out okay.

  • Real Estate Investor · Hudson, NH · Member since 2011 · 76 posts · 25 votes
    13y

    What tricks are you using to remove the MIP? As I understand it, there is no way to appraise out of the MIP. You can only wait until you have 60 months of payments and the loan hits 78% LTV from the original balance?

    Unless you are saying you will refi to conventional or other products?

  • Stoneham, MA · Member since 2013 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    13y

    Thanks Joel for letting me know about those changes to the FHA insurance. I wasn't aware. Definitely swings things more towards conventional unless we buy in the next few months.

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    13y

    Welcome to BP Nation, good luck in your quest and stay active on the site.

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