Trouble finding qualified tenants in RI + questions about SF

Trouble finding qualified tenants in RI + questions about SF

Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes

So, I'm purchasing my first single family as a rental. East Providence, quiet B neighborhood. 3 beds/2 bath. I'd say that the unit is C+ or B- quality, with the nicer homes in the neighborhood being the owner occupied. It's a big (double) lot. 

I'm struggling with finding tenants who are qualified AND interested. So far, the tenants who are interested, all have felonies and/or don't actually have the money to afford the property. I think I need a reality check on a few items and hoping someone can give some advice. Here's what I'm wondering about, somewhat based on tenant feedback:

1) Rent amount. I'm asking $1550/month. Pet an additional $50 (home lends itself well to a dog because of the big yard)

2) I'm asking the tenants to shovel snow and mow the lawn. (a tenant told me this is illegal, which is clearly not true for a SF, but ??)

3) I'm asking tenants to pay for water. (I'm honestly not sure I can ask for this - I just signed up for water in East Providence, and it seems that it's only property owners who can pay this bill, please advise.)

4) One tenant got VERY angry over my application (which is a standard RI MLS app) because it asks for bank information, including account number. Obviously, I want to see if they actually have a bank account, and see what the balance is, because this is part of the screening process. I've done this for tenants in the past - at my one multi. I don't want to scare off tenants w/the app, but I do want to get enough info to screen. The few apps I've received aren't filled out completely, so I'm not even getting what I want anyway.

In addition to all the above, I'm making the property non-smoking, requiring first month/1 month security deposit, $250 pet deposit, $40/adult for background check (I'd only do this when I'm pretty sure that I'd choose the tenant-gets paid straight to smartmove, so it's not like I'm making money on it). 

Anything above look out of place or wrong? I don't think I'm asking for too much, but since I've shown it about 20 times and only gotten 2 applications, not sure that I'm doing this right. 

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Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
7y

I have 3 SF rentals in EP.

1. Rent seems fair. I haven't seen the property.

2. Snow and lawn is fine, especially on Single Families. 

3. Water. Water/sewer is expensive in EP. Could be $100-150 monthly. Its always a big question mark. Owner almost always pays. I write into the lease the right to charge the the tenant for excessive water cost. Maybe set it for anything over $150. Rent for slightly higher to cover.

4. I've never asked for bank info. I don't care if they have a bank account. Especially with today's online technology. 

Where are you listing the property? You could always pay a professional to get you a tenant. They usually charge a months rent or less.

The $250 pet deposit might actually be questionably illegal in RI. You can't charge a security deposit of more than 1 month's rent, and pet deposit would put you over that amount. I just charge $50 monthly for the pet and $50 for security. 

Sometimes charging a higher rent is the versus small fees. Some people think that you are nickel and diming them before they move in. It sounds like you are getting enough views perhaps it is something that you haven't considered. I had a hard time selling an EP house recently. The feedback that I got was no true master bedroom and no master bath. I decided not to rip out a wall to change that.

This is a hard time of year.

Hope this helps.

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  • Investor · Bayside, NY · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    I don't know if I know all of the answers but this is my experience in 35 years of land lording.

    1. December (after Thanksgiving) and January are the worst times of the years to find tenants. The only people we find applying during this period are being evicted or bad credit. Everyone else got better things to do. One tenant of mine who fell behind on his rent because his roommate left called a "roommate" service which he used in the past, in December, was told they got nothing, no one is looking right now, and please call back in February. He had to move in with a friend and try again in February.

    2. It is normal for SF tenants to mow and shovel. Here in the NE there could be heavy snowstorms. I own a 3-plex, normally have one tenant responsible for mowing and shoveling, but they happened to move in Nov and I got no one assigned to shoveling. I found someone to do it, he live some distance away, a heavy snowstorm hit, so heavy that the city couldn't get it's plows out. It was a week before my man was able to get there, and by then, the snow became frozen solid. I told the other tenants they'll have to shovel, or be prepared to be snowed in since the city can't get plows out and no one can get there. In this case, l told the tenants have to do is to go to the front door and start shoveling, or wait till someone can get there. You'll have a lot of snowed in tenants if it's illegal to have them shovel. 

    3. I have SF tenants pay for water, but I now sign up for the water bill and then bill them. In the beginning, I thought the easier way was to have the tenant sign up and pay direct, which they can. My first tenants did. They were six months into a 2 year lease (they insisted on the 2 years), moved out in six months after the roommates got into arguments, and I later found out they didn't pay for water, phone, or electric. For the water, it was a municipal authority, the unpaid water bills was charged to my RE tax account with fines and penalties, quite a bit,  as no one bothered to tell me. That was 30 years ago, no on-line services, so the only way I can check if the water bill is paid is the call the water department every few months. If I have to do all that, I might as well pay it and bill the tenant. Currently, I scan the bill and email to the tenant. Scanning and attaching to an email takes less than 5 minutes. The water authority will have on-line and auto payments starting in 2019 which I'll sign up for. Subsequently, the phone and electric companies contacted me whenever I had new tenants to confirm I have leases with them since some people who fell behind and got cut off often claim to be new tenants giving them phony info obtained thru identity theft.

    My advice is to keep looking. I also don't charge application fees since it discourage many people from even contacting you. I worked at a senior center, provide social services, I provide translation, and the center advised people to try rentals that don't charge applications fees first, and there's plenty of those, You might collect $100 or so, but delaying a rental for a month or two to get $100.00 is not worth it, IMHO. Rents in my area run $2,500/month or better, and to lose 2 months, or $5,000 for $40/adult is not a winning strategy.

  • Real Estate Agent · Southington, CT · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @David Sisson The way the beginning of your post reads it sounds like you do not own the property yet? If so, the current owner is letting you rent it out before taking ownership?

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    I have 3 SF rentals in EP.

    1. Rent seems fair. I haven't seen the property.

    2. Snow and lawn is fine, especially on Single Families. 

    3. Water. Water/sewer is expensive in EP. Could be $100-150 monthly. Its always a big question mark. Owner almost always pays. I write into the lease the right to charge the the tenant for excessive water cost. Maybe set it for anything over $150. Rent for slightly higher to cover.

    4. I've never asked for bank info. I don't care if they have a bank account. Especially with today's online technology. 

    Where are you listing the property? You could always pay a professional to get you a tenant. They usually charge a months rent or less.

    The $250 pet deposit might actually be questionably illegal in RI. You can't charge a security deposit of more than 1 month's rent, and pet deposit would put you over that amount. I just charge $50 monthly for the pet and $50 for security. 

    Sometimes charging a higher rent is the versus small fees. Some people think that you are nickel and diming them before they move in. It sounds like you are getting enough views perhaps it is something that you haven't considered. I had a hard time selling an EP house recently. The feedback that I got was no true master bedroom and no master bath. I decided not to rip out a wall to change that.

    This is a hard time of year.

    Hope this helps.

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    Thanks everyone - great advice. Keep it coming.

    @Michael Noto I will own the property tomorrow. The current owner is letting me search for tenants before I purchase. 

    @Frank Patalano I know what you mean about extra damage deposit. In my mind, this is a cleaning fee, so maybe it becomes a pre-paid cleaning fee. Would that fly in RI? I'm doing my best to catch up w/the RI law. I do know that EP is expensive on water, I have a commercial building in EP and we are about $25/month for water - and it's just 2 toilets / 2 handwash sinks (plus a tiny bit of use from the mop sink). I can imagine once you get a couple of showers, washing machine, and a dishwasher the price will explode. I like the idea of putting some or all of the water cost onto the tenant so they'll be careful with their use. 

    I feel I'm close on what I'm asking for, but need to dial it in a bit better. Honestly, I could almost care less about the bank account, not sure what it'd tell me anyway. Most people have so little in their accounts that it's terrifying, so I'd probably never get a tenant if I based my choices on the $ in their checking or savings. 

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @David Sisson:

    Thanks everyone - great advice. Keep it coming.

    @Frank Patalano I know what you mean about extra damage deposit. In my mind, this is a cleaning fee, so maybe it becomes a pre-paid cleaning fee. Would that fly in RI? I'm doing my best to catch up w/the RI law. 

    Not sure but keep thinking creatively.

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano do you think it'd be worth it to move in one of the somewhat cruddy tenants for 6 months or month to month? Other than the 5 year old felony, one couple looks decent. 6 months would get me to better weather and maybe they'll turn out ok. Or is this magical thinking? 

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    I like the phrase magical thinking.
    Obviously I don't know what the felony was for. Be careful taking too many risks in the first deal . People do change. Check references. Don't call the current landlord, call the previous landlord. See if they can get a cosigner, a property owner with great credit. Keep showing the place. I would rather pay a half a month's rent to a professional manager who finds a great tenant then have to evict someone that beats up the place and stays there two months rent-free during eviction process.

    Frank

    Originally posted by @David Sisson:

    @Frank Patalano do you think it'd be worth it to move in one of the somewhat cruddy tenants for 6 months or month to month? Other than the 5 year old felony, one couple looks decent. 6 months would get me to better weather and maybe they'll turn out ok. Or is this magical thinking? 

  • Buy and Hold Investor · Cranston, RI · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @David Sisson, just a few thoughts.

    1550 sounds a high to me but I don't know the property or area. That 2nd bathroom does help. If it's a big unit then that might be OK.

    You can usually tell whether you're asking too much by the volume of calls you're getting. If you aren't getting a lot of calls, you're high/reaching. If the phone's ringing off the hook then you might be under market. A manageable level of calls usually means you're in the market zone.

    However with all your extra terms (pet rent, having tenants pay water), I would be clear about that in the listing so tenants know what the true price is and can use that in deciding whether to call.

    Additional pet RENT is fine, but an additional pet or cleaning deposit, if it puts the total collected deposit over one month's rent, is illegal in Rhode Island AFAIK (check with your attorney - I am not one).

    I was told, by an attorney, that if you're going to have tenants shovel snow and mow the lawn, in order to protect yourself you need to compensate them in some way - whether that's a check or a reduced rent, which is detailed in the lease. Check with your own attorney of course.

    And remember, regardless of whether you delegate shoveling and mowing to tenants, at the end of the day you are still the property owner and still the one responsible to make sure it gets done. If it's not done, the city is going to issue you a violation and saying the tenants were supposed to do it is not going to be a valid defense. (Nor do I think you could legally try to pass on such fines to the tenant, but again check with your attorney.)

    As far as water goes, it's a similar situation. As landlord, you are responsible to make sure that running water and working sewers are available at all times, that's part of the "implied warranty of habitability". So, you can try to pass such bills on to the tenant, but it's a little toothless - in Rhode Island you are responsible for those bills to be paid, and those services to remain on.

    If you still want to do that, which is fine, I would recommend that YOU get the bill and either pay it yourself & get reimbursement, or have the tenant pay it but check that account every month to make sure they did. A middle ground would be that they send the check made out to the water company back to you, then you use their check to pay the company.

    If you go that route, I would recommend your lease states that any funds received from the tenant first get applied to late fees, utility bills including water, bounced check fees, etc. and only lastly for rent.

    The reason for this is that my understanding is you can only evict for unpaid RENT in Rhode Island, not unpaid late fees, not unpaid water fees, or anything else. So you want to be clear that money received first gets applied to those other things, and only the remainder gets applied to rent, that way if you need to evict you do so only on the basis of unpaid rent.

    Also, tenants will ask you how much you estimate the water bill will be, and you'll need a reasonable answer for that. And realize that since most places don't charge for water, what you're telling them is that the "real" rent is effectively 50-100 higher than the advertised/sticker rent.

    As far as bank account information, I don't blame the tenant for balking at your asking for account number or balance. I think that's an overreach and unnecessary. And in this age of identity theft and other rental-related scams, I wouldn't provide that information myself.

    The bank isn't going to allow you to verify any information about the account anyway, regardless of whether you have the account number, so either way you're still taking the tenant's word that it's valid. If that's the case, just ask if they have a checking account and at which bank and stop there.

    Also consider that you are cutting out a potentially large population of tenants with that requirement. I understand that you're aiming to screen for "financial responsibility" and "doesn't bounce checks", but there are many responsible people who don't have bank accounts (research "the unbanked"), sometimes for personal/family/cultural reasons. They simply prefer to deal in cash.

    If you make it clear you only accept rent payment by check or money order, and once a check bounces they'll need to pay with money orders from that point forward, I think it makes it pretty clear that you expect to be paid a certain way and that you're above board with a paper trail, etc.

    $40 for the background check (I'm assuming that's the only "application fee" involved) sounds a little high but it can be a valid way to try to weed out less economically able tenant applicants. You should definitely make it clear it's going directly to the screening company though. And remember, tenants - even good ones - are wary of scams so they may be reluctant to pay such a company if they've never heard of it. For all they know, it's a vacant house you broke into, and you're working for a scam company getting half of every application fee they rake in from "applicants".

    I'm not saying not to charge an application fee, but try to think about it from the tenant's point of view and address those concerns if you can.

    Lastly, you mentioned maybe moving in cruddy tenants for 6 months. I would advise against that. You would always rather have another month of vacancy than move in cruddy tenants who are more likely to be problematic, and then you have to fight to get them out.

    I would try to be as up front with all of these things as possible, both in the ad and in the phone screen, before meeting them and taking applications. If you continue to find a dearth of qualified applicants I would strongly recommend taking the water off the table (even if it means bumping the rent a bit) and I would consider either removing the question about bank accounts entirely, or at the very least removing the account # and balance part.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes, of course!

  • Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2016 · 91 posts · 45 votes
    7y

    @David Sisson Think you said on a different thread a few months ago that you were looking at MFs, curious why you decided on the SF? I've found that SFs are harder to cash-flow, would love to hear your thinking.

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    Hi @Fan Bi - honestly, I had enough $ to do a SF (but not a multi) this year and wanted to make the purchase before the end of the year. This SF has a double/oversized lot, and is VERY close to my commercial building/business, so is super easy for me to maintain. I'll be splitting the 2nd lot off ASAP - if possible - and either selling or developing it. This makes this one great for me. It's not about cash flow on this one - more about a long term investment (although it'll cash flow a tiny bit out of the gate, and will cash flow much better if we sell the lot off and push some of the $ back into the home). 

    I'm looking forward to a multi next year - maybe even a big one if I can swing it. 

    In regards to the other stuff - I went back and double checked and the felons are actually felons (financial crime + violent crime) so I'm not renting to them. 

    I know I am ultimately responsible for snow and mowing, but hoping to get the tenant to do it at least some of the time. 

    I'll probably end up paying the water myself. 

    *sigh* huge learning process and thank you everyone for the advice. I'm sure it won't be my last set of questions. 

  • Simsbury, CT · Member since 2018 · 46 posts · 14 votes
    7y

     I just rented out my first multi family. One thing I would like to mention is that I spent way too much time listening to BiggerPockets.  Let me clarify.   It’s been very helpful and I learned everything I know from it, but I got this idea that I would find a great tenant in a reasonable amount of time. In reality nine out of 10 people no call no show. The people who liked my property the most and would pay whatever I’ve asked had criminal records and 500 or lower credit scores. I started Thinking that I would never find anybody qualified. I did have to lower my standards a little to fit my neighborhood. But I only needed two qualified tenets.   This may take longer than you want but  you want to do it right. 

  • Member since 2018 · 11 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    @David Sisson I recently purchased a MF in Providence, and have been going through several of the learning experiences recently that you have.  East Providence is a bit of a different animal, but some of my learnings may be helpful for you.

    - Finding tenants & pricing: Zillow was the best resource, bar none, for this.  I knew exactly what the market price was and even though I listed the property through several platforms 3/4 of leads came through Zillow.  I've been using Cozy to manage everything (from listing to management), which automatically syndicates the listing through several different sites and has the background/credit checks built into the application process.  You pay nothing, the applicants pay for the screening fees.

    - Property taxes: they swing dramatically depending on whether the property is owner-occupied.  Make sure you build this into your model.

    - Water and sewer: costs are much higher than other areas, as has been mentioned here already.  Make sure you build this into your model.

    - Re-zoning: this appears to be very complicated in these parts, so not sure how easy it will be to split your double lot and sell the other half.

    - Insurance: I don't know if this was only me or others have experienced this as well, but it was exceedingly hard to find reasonably priced insurance.  I'm still paying a lot more than I expected to, but I heard everything from "lead paint" to "coastal area" (?!?) to "we don't cover RI".  I ended up using a broker who already knew who would cover a MF around here, but would love to hear others' best practices/experiences.

    - Plowing/snow removal: it seems like many SF tenants are used to dealing with this themselves for a non-owner occupied property.  However, MF tenants appear to be more accustomed to the owner/manager taking care of it.  I haven't figured out how I'm going to do this, but it is an issue I need to figure out soon...

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Theodore Arzt:

     I just rented out my first multi family. One thing I would like to mention is that I spent way too much time listening to BiggerPockets.  Let me clarify.   It’s been very helpful and I learned everything I know from it, but I got this idea that I would find a great tenant in a reasonable amount of time. In reality nine out of 10 people no call no show. The people who liked my property the most and would pay whatever I’ve asked had criminal records and 500 or lower credit scores. I started Thinking that I would never find anybody qualified. I did have to lower my standards a little to fit my neighborhood. But I only needed two qualified tenets.   This may take longer than you want but  you want to do it right. 

     I know what you mean. I've already learned this - sort of - but I still have a few things I want to stick with - felonies + smoking + no evictions. I have already learned (from a local prop manager I know) that it's pointless to worry about credit ratings - the people w/good credit are buying homes not renting. 

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    @Peter Kuck we do rezone / variance / etc all the time for the architecture business, so I'm not scared of the complexity. However, you are right - it is slow, expensive, complicated. Insurance is crazy around here - I was paying about $500/year for my big single family in upstate NY. Moved here and it was $4500 for a 2 family. Got this down to $3500 when we removed the knob and tube, and later down to $2500 by getting the right agent and bundling in the auto. thanks for the other suggestions, i'll look into cozy for sure. 

  • Joseph MeePro Member
    Cranston, RI · Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    @David Sisson Hey David, I rented my 3 bed SF home in RI twice in the months of January & February during the last four years.  The first time I was getting nervous for the same reasons you listed.  Arrest records, lack of financial stability and prospective tenants currently paying less than the $1,500 I was asking.

    I agree that more people move in the spring and summer but there are some good prospective tenants out there that are looking for a nice place during the winter.  (Hang in there and don't settle for the wrong tenants.)

    I settled for good work history and good references vs. good credit.  (something has to give)

    Also, I pay for water but would consider writing a $100+/- cap in the lease at some point.  Sounds like EP is expensive.

    My tenant also is responsible for snow removal and weekly lawn care. ( I do the spring and fall cleanups and fertilize)

    I tried to screen people well in the beginning and only showed the house to a few serious sounding prospects. 

    Sounds like your on the right track.  Good luck finding the right tenant sooner than later. 

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    Wish me luck - I'm showing the home to 9 different groups of potential tenants today. The unit is freshly painted and we cleaned most of it yesterday. New blinds. One guy scheduled a showing for Friday, then called right back and rescheduled for today because "his wife was worried someone else might get it". I hope this means we get a qualified tenant. That would be a nice Christmas gift. Of course, if history is any guide, I'll get 2 or 3 of them to actually show up and walk through. 

  • Colleen F.Pro Member
    Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    @David Sisson how did you make out on tenants?   I know this is a while ago so hopefully you found someone.   This is a bad time for rentals at least in my part of the state.  For the bank account question I just ask what bank, you can get a statement if they qualify and they are paying from savings. 

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Colleen F.:

    @David Sisson how did you make out on tenants?   I know this is a while ago so hopefully you found someone.   This is a bad time for rentals at least in my part of the state.  For the bank account question I just ask what bank, you can get a statement if they qualify and they are paying from savings. 

    I’m still struggling. Lots of showings, and about 20% of the showings promise to apply, but back out. Everyone who is applying isn’t qualified. Reviewing a tenant today who has marginal income & I think a poor rental history, although good recommendations. I’m getting a bit desperate, so might put them in month to month until the weather improves. Of course if I can prove my suspicions, I might need to not rent to them too.........

  • Colleen F.Pro Member
    Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    Sorry to hear. Borderline income and good payment history means they put rent first.  I've had a few at 2.5 x rent that did  ok.   But the rental history has to support it. References they paid count the most especially if they are a landlord. Check the owner name on the tax rolls for the house they were in if you suspect fake references.

    Do you know why they are not taking it? , is there something specific about the house you can't change that you know is an issue.  Houses where location is an issue I always tell them to do a drive by and call me back if they want to see it. Saves me showing it to people who are just lookers.

    Put up a new ad. People look at the age of the listing. If you don't accept someone from this batch consider a price drop and renewal at a better time of year with an increase. Good luck

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    The home has a "weird" layout and low ceilings on 1 level. Honestly, the layout isn't that strange, but that's the comment I'm getting. The location is excellent, but it is East Providence, so it's an acquired taste, LOL. 

    I'm going to complete the review of this tenant this morning, and if it doesn't rent, I'll do a new ad w/lower price & do a 6 month lease. Thanks for the advice. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 75 posts · 35 votes
    7y
    Renting during winter can be a task as already discussed. You might try lowering rent to $1350 for winter months and giving them right of first refusal to continue at $1550 after that for a year. It's imperative that you get into the annual rental cycle from June to June (or July/July, Sept/Sept). Also, I find that beyond nice kitchens and bathrooms, paint colors can be a big factor. Muted grays work well (gray itself, buy gray green, gray blue, etc); they are modern. Maybe a bit darker gray-gray in the dining room. Allows for photos that pop better. Good luck!!
  • Rental Property Investor · Providence, RI · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 594 votes
    7y

    This is a difficult time of year, but those applicants that are looking tend to be very serious.  The rent appears fine, depending on the condition of the property.  I honestly think it needs to be in very good condition to command that rent.  Water will remain in your name, but you can send them a supplemental bill each month.  I don't think you'll have an issue with snow/lawn, etc.  Whoever told you that it is illegal to have a tenant shovel and cut the grass is a dope.  Plain and simple. I think that putting physical bank account information on an application could be a deterrent.  With all of the fraud that takes place these days, people are skeptical. I think a thorough but streamlined response is the way to go.  Over the last decade, I have amended mine as I notice trends.  The pet deposit will get you in hot water.  $250 isn't worth getting sued.  I think the $40 for the background check deters people.  I charge $25 and people tend to not have a problem with it.  

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    I'm wondering if I'm being too strict on my tenant requirements. Here's why tenants haven't gotten the property:

    - felonies

    - too many pets (3 cats and a dog?!)

    - poor rental history (broke leases, didn't pay final month, etc)

    - aggressive dog breeds 

    - income too low to qualify

    And here's what tenants are saying:

    - small bedrooms

    - found other place

    - low ceilings

    I'm going to drop the price to $1450 and see if I get someone qualified. 

    What is mystifying me is that we get a lot of showings, but not many applicants. Should I be working harder to get people to fill out the application right at the property? How do you convince them to actually apply? 

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    I'm reviewing one potential tenant right now. Checks out pretty good on paper - EXCEPT - the reason he wants to move in is:

    1) Couple of days ago he fought w/his girlfriend. Cops called, simple assault. 

    2) Current landlord is aware of this, but the guy has a lease through May.

    So, he's trying to break his lease, and there's a chance he might do some jail time. WTF? It's probably not a felony, but if he's in jail, who's paying the rent + breaking the lease w/the old landlord is a huge red flag. 

    Maybe the girlfriends going to take over the current lease? 

    I'm going to airbnb this place and be done with it. 

  • Architect · Providence, RI · Member since 2016 · 257 posts · 195 votes
    7y

    Update: we found a tenant. Not perfect, but qualified. Did a 6 month lease, so we can get on a better cycle OR continue with the same tenant if they work out well. Tenant didn't qualify, but had a solid co-signer who did qualify, so we put them both on the lease. Fingers crossed. This has been an interesting journey for me - I'm learning tons - and thank you everyone who's offering advice - and realizing how challenging all of this is.

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