Skip to content

Let's keep in touch

Subscribe to our newsletter for timely insights and actionable tips on your real estate journey.

By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions
BPCON2026 Orlando

October 2 - 4 Early Bird tickets are now ON SALE. Purchase your tickets today and save $100!

Get tickets
BPCON2026 Orlando

October 2 - 4 Early Bird tickets are now ON SALE. Purchase your tickets today and save $100!

Get tickets
Followed Discussions Followed Categories Followed People Followed Locations
Investor Mindset
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 3 hours ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

93
Posts
72
Votes
JS Burnett
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Houston TX
72
Votes |
93
Posts

Predatory or just business?

JS Burnett
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Houston TX
Posted

I need to talk about something that happens at real estate education and networking events that nobody in a position to stop it wants to talk about.

New investors show up. They are told the market is full of opportunity. They are encouraged to act fast before the window closes. They are sometimes explicitly encouraged to liquidate retirement accounts for down payments. And they are handed numbers by wholesalers that do not reflect what the deal actually costs or what it will realistically produce.

I had a debate about this recently with a lender who was defending the practice.

He conceded within the first few minutes that due diligence is essential. He conceded that most wholesalers in these environments don't know real numbers. He could not however agree that presenting unreliable numbers to financially inexperienced people in environments designed to encourage fast decisions was predatory.

I want to be specific about what predatory means in this context because the word matters.

It does not require malice. It requires a structure where one party has information the other doesn't, profits regardless of the outcome, and operates in an environment where the information asymmetry is unlikely to be corrected before the check is written.

The lender gets their points at closing. The wholesaler gets their assignment fee. The new investor gets whatever the deal actually produces which is frequently not what the numbers on the flyer suggested.

When I made this argument clearly and directly the debate stopped being a debate. Threats were made. Industry contacts were called. Claims were made that I had threatened him.

I had not threatened him. I had made an argument he could not answer and he responded accordingly.

Here is what you need to take from this.

Every number you receive from anyone who profits at closing regardless of your outcome needs to be verified independently before you commit anything. Not because everyone is dishonest. Because the structure of these transactions does not require honesty to generate a profit for the people presenting the numbers.

Know what is real. Find someone who does not profit from your decision to tell you whether the numbers make sense. That conversation is worth more than every education event you will ever attend.

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

44,761
Posts
66,028
Votes
Jay Hinrichs
#1 All Forums Contributor
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Summerlin, NV
66,028
Votes |
44,761
Posts
Jay Hinrichs
#1 All Forums Contributor
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Summerlin, NV
Replied

its called Caveot emptor .  There is no question though that RE for whatever reason folks think is the way to get rich and retire.. irrational exuberance.. And then presented in a format right out of MLM marketing structures. 

business profile image
JLH Capital Partners

Loading replies...