Hello,
I am new to real estate investing with no rental property yet. I would like to learn more specifically about estimating rehab costs. I am assuming that rehab costs have increased significantly since 2020, and would like to be able to learn to estimate roughly before getting into my first project (light to moderate rehab). I am located near DFW area and have read book on rental property investing by Brandon Turner and BRRRR by David Greene.
If you could recommend books or resources to learn more in depth about rehab aspects of real estate investing, I would greatly appreciate it!
I would start by reading JScott's Book on Estimating Rehab Costs to learn the basics. The pricing is outdated, but it will give you a general understanding of how to estimate the major repair categories.
Otherwise, this question get's asked ALOT, so I have created boilerplate list of the process of how you can learn to estimate costs. It's a process that takes time and experience:
J Scott discusses the fundamentals of budgeting and pricing rehab costs and reveals the steps, tips, and tricks he uses to accurately estimate costs for 25 common trade categories and hundreds of repairs.
Walk through a couple of rehabs that a local real estate investor has completed in your local market and study the types of repairs they made and the level of finishes they installed in the property.
Spying on the competition and understanding what buyers are looking for will help you determine what type of repairs and level of finishes you need to install in your own properties.
Walkthrough through Lowes and Home Depot (or their websites) and look at finishes materials and fixtures that you will consider using in your rehab projects. This will help you get a better idea of what tile, hardwood, carpet, plumbing fixtures and light fixtures costs for your rehabs.
As others have suggested pay a GC to walk through a few properties and provide budget pricing for typical repairs.
Once you start to get a better understanding of Labor and Material costs you will want to store this data into a spreadsheet or software that you can use to help you streamline the estimating process.
Walk through distressed fixer-upper properties (or find properties virtually online) and practice creating detailed scopes of work, quantifying repairs and estimating rehab costs for the projects.
This will help you get acquainted with common rehab repairs, rehab costs & estimating terminology.
You can practice all you want, but ultimately you will learn the most about estimating rehab costs by actually rehabbing a house. Getting your first rehab project will require you to create a SOW, talk to contractors, compare and review bid proposals, review budgets, & make countless trips to Home Depot.
You will inevitably make mistakes and underestimate things, but you will learn 90% of what you know by just doing your first rehab!
Once you complete your first house flip project, take some time to review your actual costs that you spent on the project and compare it to your initial estimates and budgets.
Reviewing your final numbers will help you gain a better understanding of how much you actually spent in each Category and identify areas where you underestimated cost and blew your budget.
When you buy your next house flip project you will have this valuable learning experience to help you build a more accurate estimate!
As your continue to do more and more houses, you'll gradually gain more experience and be able to develop accurate estimates quickly and confidently!
Sit down with GCs, see if you can pay them for reviewing scopes of work. That would be a hard ask so the other option is analyze deals then pay GCs to walk before offering. You need to see actual scopes not broad estimates. In my area it's a few hundred bucks to pay a GC
Sit down with GCs, see if you can pay them for reviewing scopes of work. That would be a hard ask so the other option is analyze deals then pay GCs to walk before offering. You need to see actual scopes not broad estimates. In my area it's a few hundred bucks to pay a GC
Thank you for your reply. Discussing directly with GC seems like accurate way to know. Would you normally hire GC to walk after inspection?
Sit down with GCs, see if you can pay them for reviewing scopes of work. That would be a hard ask so the other option is analyze deals then pay GCs to walk before offering. You need to see actual scopes not broad estimates. In my area it's a few hundred bucks to pay a GC
Thank you for your reply. Discussing directly with GC seems like accurate way to know. Would you normally hire GC to walk after inspection?
I have a couple go to GCs that'll walk during the inspection. I estimate rehab beforehand then verify during.
The best way to learn this is to get a few GCs, and start to check jobs out with them on the MLS/on-market. You will need to probably pay these people if they are just bidding jobs for you randomly for you to learn and not do deal.. If you are using one or a few, I would be upfront with them. The guys I use, I use them on a ton of jobs and refer them out too so they are getting paid by my jobs and others, so when we call they go out and give free bids all the time. If you are farther away from doing a deal, then I would tell them your goals and plans to get to start doing deals but this is a learning process.
The timeframe to get the numbers down is not quick so be patient and be sure to continue to do it you'll get better at it the more you have under your belt.
I would start by reading JScott's Book on Estimating Rehab Costs to learn the basics. The pricing is outdated, but it will give you a general understanding of how to estimate the major repair categories.
Otherwise, this question get's asked ALOT, so I have created boilerplate list of the process of how you can learn to estimate costs. It's a process that takes time and experience:
J Scott discusses the fundamentals of budgeting and pricing rehab costs and reveals the steps, tips, and tricks he uses to accurately estimate costs for 25 common trade categories and hundreds of repairs.
Walk through a couple of rehabs that a local real estate investor has completed in your local market and study the types of repairs they made and the level of finishes they installed in the property.
Spying on the competition and understanding what buyers are looking for will help you determine what type of repairs and level of finishes you need to install in your own properties.
Walkthrough through Lowes and Home Depot (or their websites) and look at finishes materials and fixtures that you will consider using in your rehab projects. This will help you get a better idea of what tile, hardwood, carpet, plumbing fixtures and light fixtures costs for your rehabs.
As others have suggested pay a GC to walk through a few properties and provide budget pricing for typical repairs.
Once you start to get a better understanding of Labor and Material costs you will want to store this data into a spreadsheet or software that you can use to help you streamline the estimating process.
Walk through distressed fixer-upper properties (or find properties virtually online) and practice creating detailed scopes of work, quantifying repairs and estimating rehab costs for the projects.
This will help you get acquainted with common rehab repairs, rehab costs & estimating terminology.
You can practice all you want, but ultimately you will learn the most about estimating rehab costs by actually rehabbing a house. Getting your first rehab project will require you to create a SOW, talk to contractors, compare and review bid proposals, review budgets, & make countless trips to Home Depot.
You will inevitably make mistakes and underestimate things, but you will learn 90% of what you know by just doing your first rehab!
Once you complete your first house flip project, take some time to review your actual costs that you spent on the project and compare it to your initial estimates and budgets.
Reviewing your final numbers will help you gain a better understanding of how much you actually spent in each Category and identify areas where you underestimated cost and blew your budget.
When you buy your next house flip project you will have this valuable learning experience to help you build a more accurate estimate!
As your continue to do more and more houses, you'll gradually gain more experience and be able to develop accurate estimates quickly and confidently!
I would start by reading JScott's Book on Estimating Rehab Costs to learn the basics. The pricing is outdated, but it will give you a general understanding of how to estimate the major repair categories.
Otherwise, this question get's asked ALOT, so I have created boilerplate list of the process of how you can learn to estimate costs. It's a process that takes time and experience:
J Scott discusses the fundamentals of budgeting and pricing rehab costs and reveals the steps, tips, and tricks he uses to accurately estimate costs for 25 common trade categories and hundreds of repairs.
Walk through a couple of rehabs that a local real estate investor has completed in your local market and study the types of repairs they made and the level of finishes they installed in the property.
Spying on the competition and understanding what buyers are looking for will help you determine what type of repairs and level of finishes you need to install in your own properties.
Walkthrough through Lowes and Home Depot (or their websites) and look at finishes materials and fixtures that you will consider using in your rehab projects. This will help you get a better idea of what tile, hardwood, carpet, plumbing fixtures and light fixtures costs for your rehabs.
As others have suggested pay a GC to walk through a few properties and provide budget pricing for typical repairs.
Once you start to get a better understanding of Labor and Material costs you will want to store this data into a spreadsheet or software that you can use to help you streamline the estimating process.
Walk through distressed fixer-upper properties (or find properties virtually online) and practice creating detailed scopes of work, quantifying repairs and estimating rehab costs for the projects.
This will help you get acquainted with common rehab repairs, rehab costs & estimating terminology.
You can practice all you want, but ultimately you will learn the most about estimating rehab costs by actually rehabbing a house. Getting your first rehab project will require you to create a SOW, talk to contractors, compare and review bid proposals, review budgets, & make countless trips to Home Depot.
You will inevitably make mistakes and underestimate things, but you will learn 90% of what you know by just doing your first rehab!
Once you complete your first house flip project, take some time to review your actual costs that you spent on the project and compare it to your initial estimates and budgets.
Reviewing your final numbers will help you gain a better understanding of how much you actually spent in each Category and identify areas where you underestimated cost and blew your budget.
When you buy your next house flip project you will have this valuable learning experience to help you build a more accurate estimate!
As your continue to do more and more houses, you'll gradually gain more experience and be able to develop accurate estimates quickly and confidently!
@Peter Mckernan It makes sense I need to talk with local GCs to understand more realistic estimates. Before you built your relationship with your GC, what was the most effective way you used to find potential GCs?
@David Robertson Thank you for such thorough instructions. I actually just purchased his book few minutes before reading your comments. I was a little concerned that this book was written in 2019 and I am assuming the cost has gone up significantly since then. But I'm glad it can still be useful. Once I finish the book, I will follow your step by step guide and hopefully I can be ready for my first investment.
Following the gurus for underwriting theory is great so you have a better understanding of what to look for. Getting reps in with GCs is the best way to apply all of that and ask tons of questions
Everything is usually per sq ft . Best is to get 3 bids and divide the number by the square footage and you'll be able to gauge approximately what the market is per sq ft for a full rehab
Howdy Mike! I agree that reading about different books on estimating rehab cost is a great start to become aware of the different costs and risks you could run into rehabbing a property. When I first started out I would go to active jobsites and literally give them a free's day's work just to pick there brain, learn their prices, and how it's supposed to be done right.
-What I found is it's very common to do use cost per sqft unless the property is under 800sqft (for ex. you can't contract your labor at $1sqft for flooring if it's only 500sqft. It would then switch to day labor rate, which is custom to the trade.
***BE VERY CAREFUL GOING SOLO, you can have those number's mastered and know it like the back of your hand. But if you don't really know the process you don't know the risk.
Using these average sqft cost for your rehab is great to get a idea if the property will still match your cap rate after your rehab cost. However, I always recommend a professional to take a look. All it takes is one mistake behind a wrapped wall or a roof line that you think might look OK.
I recommend to always continue learning the process, read books, talk to contractors, and even work with them. However, this is just to create confidence and knowledge in your field and what to look for.