Western Mass / Holyoke Multi Family Investing

Western Mass / Holyoke Multi Family Investing

Professional · Framingham, MA · Member since 2014 · 16 posts · 8 votes

Hey All,

I hope everyone is doing well. I'm a 21 year new investor and I'm looking to start of with multi family properties for cashflow. I currently live in Newton, MA and the prices around here are crazy for multi family homes. Some starting from $800,000 just for a 2 family! Currently my credit score is 750+ and I have around 10,000k I've saved so far for R.E. investing. With that being said I've been looking at areas in western mass like Holyoke & Springfield where multifamily prices are more affordable for me to start small. If possible I'd like to hear about investors experience about investing in these two areas. It would mean a lot to me!

Best,

Mike 

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Investor · Southport, NC · Member since 2017 · 38 posts · 26 votes
9y
Micahel Evans I recently picked up a 2 Family in Springfield. I live in Boston area, but had taken a number of trips through Springfield and felt comfortable investing there. Cash flow is great in the area. I'm definitely not counting on appreciation. A lot of properties are deleaded which is huge. Many section 8 tenants (one of my tenants is section 8, great tenant). A lot of 10+ cap rate properties on the MLS. Not familiar with all neighborhoods in Springfield, but you'll definitely want to drive around, check crime maps, etc... I'm still looking for a good agent that I trust to begin making offers on a few more out there. Let me know how you progress. If you ever want to meet up out there in Springfield when I'm there, I'd be more than happy to do so.
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  • Cambridge, MA · Member since 2015 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    Micahel (or is it Michael)?,

    Kudos for beginning your path to real estate investing. What are your goals though? And have you been to/driven around/talked to the locals in Holyoke/Springfield yet? If not, that would be a good first step

  • Investor · Southport, NC · Member since 2017 · 38 posts · 26 votes
    9y
    Micahel Evans I recently picked up a 2 Family in Springfield. I live in Boston area, but had taken a number of trips through Springfield and felt comfortable investing there. Cash flow is great in the area. I'm definitely not counting on appreciation. A lot of properties are deleaded which is huge. Many section 8 tenants (one of my tenants is section 8, great tenant). A lot of 10+ cap rate properties on the MLS. Not familiar with all neighborhoods in Springfield, but you'll definitely want to drive around, check crime maps, etc... I'm still looking for a good agent that I trust to begin making offers on a few more out there. Let me know how you progress. If you ever want to meet up out there in Springfield when I'm there, I'd be more than happy to do so.
  • Real Estate Agent · Westboro, MA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 471 votes
    9y

    @Andrew Laing

    That is great most multi's are de leaded in Springfield! Congrats on picking up a 2 fam- 

  • Property Manager · Boston, MA · Member since 2014 · 194 posts · 73 votes
    9y
    Awesome saving up money. I've been looking around Springfield and Agawam. Pm me sometime to discuss what are your priorities in investing. Currently looking for 10 plus units
  • Professional · Framingham, MA · Member since 2014 · 16 posts · 8 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Andrew Laing:

    Micahel Evans I recently picked up a 2 Family in Springfield. I live in Boston area, but had taken a number of trips through Springfield and felt comfortable investing there. Cash flow is great in the area. I'm definitely not counting on appreciation. A lot of properties are deleaded which is huge. Many section 8 tenants (one of my tenants is section 8, great tenant). A lot of 10+ cap rate properties on the MLS. Not familiar with all neighborhoods in Springfield, but you'll definitely want to drive around, check crime maps, etc...

    I'm still looking for a good agent that I trust to begin making offers on a few more out there.

    Let me know how you progress. If you ever want to meet up out there in Springfield when I'm there, I'd be more than happy to do so.

    I really appreciate you telling me about your experience investing in Springfield. I will definetly keep you touch when I head out there to look at some properties. Is there also an investment meet up group in the city there?

  • Professional · Framingham, MA · Member since 2014 · 16 posts · 8 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    Awesome saving up money. I've been looking around Springfield and Agawam. Pm me sometime to discuss what are your priorities in investing.
    Currently looking for 10 plus units

     Thanks Angel. I'd love to talk more, I'll PM you

  • Professional · Framingham, MA · Member since 2014 · 16 posts · 8 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Joe Schmoe:

    Micahel (or is it Michael)?,

    Kudos for beginning your path to real estate investing. What are your goals though? And have you been to/driven around/talked to the locals in Holyoke/Springfield yet? If not, that would be a good first step

     Thanks Joe. I haven't been there yet, but plan to head out there soon to check out some neighborhoods. 

  • Boston, MA · Member since 2017 · 95 posts · 29 votes
    8y

    Good luck and keep us updated!!!

  • Investor · Burlington, NC · Member since 2016 · 81 posts · 25 votes
    8y

    @Andrew Laing, thanks for sharing your insight on Springfield. How's your experience been thus far? I'm looking for multis (8+ units) in Holyoke and Springfield....

  • Boston, MA · Member since 2017 · 95 posts · 29 votes
    8y

    Yea let us know @Andrew Laing.  I have a 3fam under agreement in Springfield right now!

  • Investor · Southport, NC · Member since 2017 · 38 posts · 26 votes
    8y

    @Dedric Polite and @An Duong,  I've made several offers here in the past 6 months.  I had a package deal for several 3 families, but had to back out due to some concerns dealing with the seller. I've offered on everything from smaller multi families, bids on single families via online auction, and larger apartment complexes.  I've had a good experience with the 2 family I purchased almost a year ago, so I plan to keep offering to add more units.  Looking for 10+ cap properties using conservative numbers, so definitely losing out on deals because of that. 

    Where is your 3 fam located An Duong?

  • Investor · Burlington, NC · Member since 2016 · 81 posts · 25 votes
    8y

    @Andrew Laing anything jumping out at you in due diligence that we should be aware of?

  • Dorchestr Ctr, MA · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    @Dedric Polite I have someone relocated to your area do have any rentals ?

  • Investor · Burlington, NC · Member since 2016 · 81 posts · 25 votes
    8y

    @Marchaina Williams have rentals in Boston, none in Holyoke as of yet, looking to purchase some. 

  • Dorchestr Ctr, MA · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    your not in North Carolina

  • Boston, MA · Member since 2017 · 95 posts · 29 votes
    8y

    @Andrew Laing Its on Chester st. 

    @Dedric Polite inventory on 8+ units are a little low in Springfield right now, I've been looking too lol.

  • Youngsville, NC · Member since 2015 · 29 posts · 14 votes
    8y
    I used to live in Chicopee and didn’t really mind the area. I left right as construction was starting on the casino. Has anyone there seen the area pick up since that has finished?
  • Investor · Burlington, NC · Member since 2016 · 81 posts · 25 votes
    8y

    @Marchaina Williams, I live in NC, invest in Boston and NC...

  • Dorchestr Ctr, MA · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    What are you looking for in Boston

  • Real Estate Investor · Hamden County, MA · Member since 2017 · 75 posts · 31 votes
    8y

    Chicopee is thriving @Justin Reed, inventory is extremely low but there has been a surge in buying; specifically 2-3 families. Myself and a business associate own/manage a handful of properties in the area...If you have any questions or are looking for more information don't hesitate to reach out

    @An Duong is right on the money. There is evidence of a substantial reduction in the opportunity to pick up 8+ units out in the Springfield area. Market is saturated with 2-famalies but not much else

    @Dedric Polite if you are looking for reliable representation out in the Holyoke market, don't hesitate to send me a message. I'd be more than willing to work with you and provide assistance in any way possible

  • Investor · Burlington, NC · Member since 2016 · 81 posts · 25 votes
    8y

    @Ryan Jopson thanks for reaching out. Will inbox you

  • Investor · Southport, NC · Member since 2017 · 38 posts · 26 votes
    8y

    @Ryan Jopson helping me out with a deal for 28 units in Holyoke right now.  Definitely learning a lot through this process and will learn even more after we close (knock on wood).  I should be in Western Mass a decent amount over the next month or so.  I think it would it be great to meet up with some of you investing and interested in investing in the area.  

  • Investor · Southport, NC · Member since 2017 · 38 posts · 26 votes
    8y

    @Dedric Polite These are old homes/buildings, so as far as due diligence goes, the lead and asbestos are something you have to examine.  Also, many of these tenants in a number of the deals I've looked at have not paid security deposits, so just be aware of this.  Many Section 8 tenants as well, just an FYI.  

    Insurance premiums are on the high end because the replacement cost is much higher than the purchase price for these deals, so make sure to include this in your expenses when figuring out your offer. Section 8 tenants raise the rates as well.  

  • Brett MerrillBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Ludlow, MA · Member since 2016 · 114 posts · 48 votes
    8y

    Hey @Michael Evans I am an investor/agent out in the Western Mass area. I recently purchased a great 4 unit mixed use property in Ludlow Ma which is very close to Springfield. This is a nice B+/B- area. The area is certainly no Denver or Boston market however from my experience if you apply the tools/knowledge supplied from BP and run the right numbers, the properties out here cash flow very well. Using that 4 unit as an example it is currently cash flowing $1000-1400 (after all expenses 5% vacancy, 7% R&M and 10% Cap ex). I know these numbers aren't the norm but I just wanted to give you an example. This was using an FHA 3.5% down house hacking approach. Please feel free to message me if you would like to speak more about the area and REI. I am an agent as well if you are looking for someone to help you find the property you are looking for.

    Best,

    Brett

  • Veronique LeroyPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Davie, FL · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 5 votes
    8y

    Hi Brett, I am a local investor(Buy and hold) in your area. Congratulations on your new investment property! The numbers in my opinion look really good for Western Mass. Happy to assist you in case of any questions. By the way,  any similar deals that you may encounter please let me know. Thanks.

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