Rental Property Investor · Oceanside, CA · Member since 2019 · 121 posts · 58 votes
Bought my first investment property last September in Pittsburgh, PA. I reside in San Diego, CA and never set foot in Pittsburgh so it seemed a little weird.
Details:
SFR 4/2 on the MLS
Asking: $50K; Offered: $40K And ultimately agreed and purchased for $44K
Used conventional financing with 20% down
Rehab cost was $36K
Total money in including rehab, down payment, closing costs and holding costs: $55K
Rented 4 months after purchase for $1275
Refinanced into a new 30 year fixed at 4.5% and was able to get $53K cash out after an appraisal of $125K
Currently looking for the next deal to finish out the "Repeat" phase of the BRRRR; hence the almost.
Definitely learned a lot through this process everything from financing to working with contractors to property management companies. Biggest piece for me would be perhaps developing a contractor agreement on my end that could have prevented some hiccups down the road; ultimately the work was done well but drawn out and demands for payment outside of the quoted schedule.
I’m looking to use hard money for my next deal in order to learn the ins and outs of doing so.
Rental Property Investor · Bushwick, Brooklyn · Member since 2020 · 55 posts · 16 votes
6y
@Kevin Wilson that makes sense - appreciate the insight.
Thank you for asking. As a super new investor, I'm not 100% certain at this point. I know I want to buy a multifamily but I'm not sure which market at this point.
My wife and I own a 2-family home in Brooklyn where we reside in one unit and Airbnb the other. We had a tenant the first year, but we were able to nearly triple our income by Airbnb-ing it since.
At the same time, we have friends that bought a vacation home in St. Petersburg FL where their Airbnb income is higher than ours and their mortgage is 30% of ours!
So knowing that some markets could be much more profitable than others, I'm leaning toward conducting a broad nationwide search. But my goal is to learn as much as I can over the next few months to get to a decision around where to invest and whether to do a traditional rental vs. Airbnb.
Rental Property Investor · Oceanside, CA · Member since 2019 · 121 posts · 58 votes
6y
@Scott Krause Southern California wasn’t in my price range as a new investor on a cop salary so after finding Bigger Pockets I began expanding my horizon. Pittsburgh came up on some turnkey sites and when my wife said she had a friend who was an agent there I began to zero in. Having an investor friendly agent with contacts and area knowledge made pulling the trigger a lot easier. Thanks for asking. Where are you invested in or thinking about?
Rental Property Investor · Bushwick, Brooklyn · Member since 2020 · 55 posts · 16 votes
6y
@Kevin Wilson that makes sense - appreciate the insight.
Thank you for asking. As a super new investor, I'm not 100% certain at this point. I know I want to buy a multifamily but I'm not sure which market at this point.
My wife and I own a 2-family home in Brooklyn where we reside in one unit and Airbnb the other. We had a tenant the first year, but we were able to nearly triple our income by Airbnb-ing it since.
At the same time, we have friends that bought a vacation home in St. Petersburg FL where their Airbnb income is higher than ours and their mortgage is 30% of ours!
So knowing that some markets could be much more profitable than others, I'm leaning toward conducting a broad nationwide search. But my goal is to learn as much as I can over the next few months to get to a decision around where to invest and whether to do a traditional rental vs. Airbnb.
Rental Property Investor · Oceanside, CA · Member since 2019 · 121 posts · 58 votes
6y
@Scott Krause funny you mentioned St. Pete. My Pittsburgh agent just bought a place down there to Airbnb and use themselves and I’ve also started casually watching that market. I’m not super interested in STRs for now but may be in the future. COVID kinda put a little hit on that industry as well.
Investor · DFW · Member since 2020 · 14 posts · 7 votes
6y
@kevinwilson am I reading it correctly, you bought a property for 44K+rehab 36k (total 80K) and the house was appraised for 125K? If math is correct, it's an outstanding deal! Does is also cash flow?
Investor · Tucson, AZ · Member since 2017 · 394 posts · 178 votes
6y
@Kevin Wilson Hard money is a great way to go. On my last BRRRR I was able to preserve capital up front by only putting in 10% down and they included the rehab in the loan! PM if you would like the lender I used. Also, I think terms have changed a little with COVID so you may need to put more down up front and higher interest but still better than coming out of pocket with the full amount. Awesome deal by the way! Sounds like I need to look into Pittsburgh.
This might be a super basic a basic question, but what are turnkey sites you used/liked and what were you using them for? I tried Googling this and wasn't able to find anything definitive.
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 74 posts · 22 votes
6y
@Kevin Wilson Congratulations, the numbers look amazing. How are you managing the property from CA? Have you found a good property manager? How did you find the contractor? I'm looking to 1031 in the next few months, into a small MF in PA - either Pittsburgh or Philadelphia (from out of state), and coming across your experience has been heartening, especially during COVID.
Rental Property Investor · Oceanside, CA · Member since 2019 · 121 posts · 58 votes
6y
@Ricardo S. Yes photos only and realtor walkthrough videos.
I hired a general contractor to handle all the rehab. The work he did was good but took twice as long as he originally quoted and asked several times for advances outside of the draw schedule; then got angry at the end of the project when final payment wasn’t sent until he finished the finishing touches; so I think he was bad a budgeting time and had some personal hardship. Started out great but the project approached Christmas and he must of felt stressed. At the end of the day he’d did good work but wouldn’t use him again.
Rental Property Investor · Oceanside, CA · Member since 2019 · 121 posts · 58 votes
6y
@Scott Krause Roofstock.
I used it to see if there were decent turnkey properties that maybe were undervalued and also to get a broader understanding of areas, rent estimates, etc. not sure I’d buy direct from one but I feel it was a good research tool being new to rentas
Rental Property Investor · Oceanside, CA · Member since 2019 · 121 posts · 58 votes
6y
@Jag C. My Realtor put me in touch with a property manager and a contractor. The contractor was more of a friend of a friend and ended up having some hiccups with him (scroll up to see my explanation there) but the property manager is one she uses and has a relationship with and so far has been great