My daughter's most recent BRRRR deal. Step by step Breakdown

My daughter's most recent BRRRR deal. Step by step Breakdown

Omni CaseyPro Member
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**Hopefully some motivation for anyone just starting out.** I posted this on the BP Facebook Group and was asked to post it here as well.

Growing up we never talked about money. It always felt like a taboo discussion. It made people feel uncomfortable. As a result, I never understood money. I spent most of my life working really hard and getting really good at the game of “Earning Money.” At one point, that was the most important game to understand and I got really good at it…And then, almost overnight I discovered that I was playing the wrong game altogether. Earning money does not matter. Creating money. Now that is the real game. 

I have come to understand that money is somewhere between, on one side, a living and breathing organism capable of exponential growth. It reacts to outside elements like a science experiment, it grows and atrophies like the used and unused muscles in our body…and then on the other side it barely even exists. It is an idea… Crazy, I know. But if you understand these concepts then the game of creating money (not earning) becomes so easy. 

In the Casey household I talk about money all the time with my kids. We play board games that teach us concepts about money. Not because money is important (because its not), but because the ultimate freedom that comes with the understanding of money is important. This post may make some feel uncomfortable, and I apologize for that. But I am committed to talk openly more about the science and the business of money creation (like I do with my kids at home) in hopes that it might become a more common topic at the dinner table in our community. There is no better vehicle or tool to assist you in the game of creating money than real estate. That is the tool that we have been focusing on for a long time.

Below is a detailed breakdown of one of 38 properties that we have purchased so far this year (on our quest to purchase #52PropertiesIn52Weeks ). Every property is different and has different potential and a different strategy. This strategy is by far one of my favorites and is always my preferred method. Earlier this year we bought a vacant duplex in the Northern Virginia area. It needed work and potential structural issues scared off the average buyer. We were able to get the property for $130k cash. (Pro tip) We actually made the seller several different offers with different price points and different terms and they chose the lowest priced offer because the all cash, as-is, quick close terms were the most important to them. This is also a property that Brookie hand picked as she has skin in the game on this deal as well. (we don’t do traditional college funds…we use real estate for that as well). We were able to have our contractors confirm that the structural issue was not a major issue and was isolated to a few rotten floor joists in the back room. Easy fix. We refinished the hardwood floors where they were salvageable and added new floors where they were not. We moved a few walls around to take a poorly designed 2/1 and 1/1 duplex and made it into a much better flowing 3/1 and 2/1 duplex. 

New paint, new appliances and new lighting made this property sparkle and it quickly became the nicest rental on the market. All in the renovations cost just under $30k. We now have $160k invested in this project. We put it on the market for rent and in one day had over 30 applications come in. We found two amazing sets of long-term tenants and are now bringing in just under $3000 a month in rent. Before factoring in any appreciation in value or tax benefits through depreciation, this would be a 16-18% ROI. Not bad, but we are not finished yet.

We had it appraised and the new appraisal value came in at about $298k. If we sold it, after closing costs and getting our $160k investment back we would walk away with $117k (pre-tax). That would be a 73% ROI. Better. However short-term Capital gains taxes are a pain and that would eat up about 37%! Not good. After taxes it would be closer to a 46% ROI. That is why we love the BRRRR cycle and rather than selling to someone else for a profit, we "sell it" to ourselves for a profit through a cash-out refinance. We were able to pull out 75% of the new appraised value and after lender closing costs that gave us about $210k, which is what we did. (This picture below is of Brookie before she took it in to the bank to deposit it

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) This pays us back our full $160,000 investment and gives us $50k TAX FREE gains. Yes, the $50k is only a 31% Tax free ROI but being that we got 100% of our investment back, and we still own the cash-flowing property (that we plan to keep forever) everything that we make from that property moving forward is an infinite ROI which is "Created money" (not earned money). After paying the mortgage, taxes, insurance, property manager and setting aside money for repairs and reserves every month there is about a $1200 a month PIFL (Passive Income For Life). Start to finish, (because I hired a great team at every step) I only spent about 15 hours on this deal (Analysis, offer, settlement, design, contractor set up and check ins, rental stabilization, BRRRR refinance paperwork, BRRRR settlement (at Starbucks before work), Selfie with Brookie

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and this post.) I don’t share this to brag. We are actually a very private family and up until now we have gone though great lengths to be anonymous investors through LLCs and corporations. This post will actually get me in trouble with my wife

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…. However, there are too many people, too many family members, too many friends that are struggling at the game of “Earning Money”. I am committed to help as many people as possible stop NEEDING to EARN money, and start down the path of CREATING Money. Start down the path of Passive Income For Life. I do not charge for my help (because that would be called earning money…and I hate earning money

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). I will help anyone for free if you reach out and ask. This is my passion, and I feel this is my purpose. On to the next deal...Ps if you are going to the BiggerPockets convention in 2 weeks, I will be there and would love to connect!

#omnitheinvestorguy

#52propertiesin52weeks

#newleafredevelopers

#WeichertLoCo

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Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2021 · 8 posts · 11 votes
5y

This is pure gold.. Congrats on the successful BRRRR.

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  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Anna Wolford:

    Great post! I am struggling getting my children on board with my visions. I've begun my real estate investing journey with one property that I've completely rehabbed alone. My children are so self focused. I'm currently finishing my rehab and keep debating on renting or selling. The profit is attractive but then I feel I will have money with no buying options due to the current market. I want to rent but the home is in a C class neighborhood which worries me on renters not caring for the home that I've put my heart and soul into for the past year. I have yet to have it appraised to look at refinancing. So, Suggestions for keeping or selling and getting my children on board since this journey will benefit them later in life??

     Hi Anna, I have 3 kids and each have their own level of interest.  Playing the Rich Dad Poor Dad Cashflow game with them often helps tremendously to keep the topic front and center and gamifies to concept of finances and real estate for them so when we are out and about looking at properties or checking on projects they are able to make a connection that they are making moves that help them win in the game.

    As for your property, I would not be able to advise you on that without knowing a little more about the numbers of the deal.  Feel free to PM me with more details and I can give you my opinion. 

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Josh Ashford:

    Thank you for this story. My family is just starting out on the "creating money" journey and have had several deals fall apart. I'm not discouraged because I know every no is closer to a yes and I don't want a yes on a property that isn't right :)

    This is a reminder why we are going down this path. Why we analysis so many deals. Thank you :) 

    Josh, Yes sir! Keep at it!

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Chuck Webb:

    Great story.  I just finished my fifth house and finalized the lease.    If you cash-out refinance, doesn't that bring down your cash flow?  If you pay all cash for your properties, you are not maximizing the use of your $.

    Chuck, congrats on your recent deal! You are correct. Not every house would make a good BRRRR. You need the ability to raise both the ARV and the ARRV (After Repair Rent Value) high enough for the numbers to make sense after you cash out. But if you can achieve both, then you have the chance to get your money out of the deal and still own a great rental property that brings you a return even though you have no money left invested in the deal. That is why it is referred to as the infinite ROI. Once again, it does not work on every property...but it is beautiful when it does.

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Etler Petit:

    Thank you for the motivation.

     Etler, You are welcome.

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Danny Nguyen:

    That's amazing - truly inspirational! :)

    What would you say is the most effective method of finding good deals such as these?

     Danny, Thank you for the kind words.

    In every area that I invest in I try to have a great Investor friendly Realtor that sends me on-market and off-market deals.  I connect with wholesalers.  I connect with other local investors.  Not every deal is a good fit for every investor so if you tell them what you are looking for, they will pass it on to you if it doesn't fit their needs. And I get a lot of deals from my property managers.  

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Michele Jefferson:

    @Omni Casey Thank you so much. You are an amazing and kind person.

     Thank you for the kind words Michele

  • Investor · NorCal · Member since 2015 · 282 posts · 240 votes
    5y

    Most lenders require 12 months seasoning, and a few at least 6 months seasoning, meaning they only lend based on your purchase price + repair bills, not the newly appraised value until you’ve owned that shack for at least a year.

  • New to Real Estate · Tampa · Member since 2021 · 7 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    Thanks for sharing @Omni Casey. I’m hoping to be able to give my future kids an opportunity to experience entrepreneurship at a young age as well. This is very inspiring. Love it!

  • Rental Property Investor · Dunedin, FL · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 32 votes
    5y

    @Omni Casey I love everything about this post of yours! Kudos and congrats! As an entrepreneur and homeschool dad of four with 27 doors I want to do a lot more of this with my kids! Let's connect!

  • Real Estate Agent · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2019 · 22 posts · 11 votes
    5y

    You are teaching your daughter well!!! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 32 posts · 30 votes
    5y

    @Omni Casey amazing! Congratulations!

  • Rental Property Investor · Mililani, HI · Member since 2019 · 36 posts · 18 votes
    5y

    Very inspirational.  Thank you for getting out of your comfort zone and sharing this!

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Jim Spatzenfeld:

    Most lenders require 12 months seasoning, and a few at least 6 months seasoning, meaning they only lend based on your purchase price + repair bills, not the newly appraised value until you’ve owned that shack for at least a year.

     Jim - Great point.  It is important to have a good lender lined up to help.  There are many that will do it after 6 months and that is what I usually do.  First 1-3 months are renovations.  Then we rent it and collect mortgage free rent for a few months before we refinance.

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    Originally posted by @Eddie Morales:

    Thanks for sharing @Omni Casey. I’m hoping to be able to give my future kids an opportunity to experience entrepreneurship at a young age as well. This is very inspiring. Love it!

     Thank you Eddie.  I am glad to hear that.

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Chris Niemeyer:

    @Omni Casey I love everything about this post of yours! Kudos and congrats! As an entrepreneur and homeschool dad of four with 27 doors I want to do a lot more of this with my kids! Let's connect!

     Thank you Chris!  That is awesome.  With your kids homeschooled you have so many creative curriculum options that you can create for them.  Would love to connect. 

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    Originally posted by @Shannon Kosko:

    You are teaching your daughter well!!! 

     Thank you Shannon

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    Originally posted by @Melissa Romano:

    @Omni Casey amazing! Congratulations!

     Thank you Melissa

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    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    Very inspirational.  Thank you for getting out of your comfort zone and sharing this!

     Thank you Aaron and Aloha!

  • Rental Property Investor · Dunedin, FL · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 32 votes
    5y

    You are so right @Omni Casey!  Let's connect - are you going to the conference this coming week? 

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    @Chris Niemeyer I will definitely be at the BPCon2021 conference next week. You? If so, I look forward to connecting in person

  • Real Estate Agent · Lorton, VA · Member since 2015 · 61 posts · 10 votes
    5y

    @Omni Casey

    Awesome post! Thanks for sharing!

    I would like to please connect. I'm in the Northern VA area, as well.

    Please reach if you can or I can ping you, if that’s okay?

    Thank you in advance!

    Mike N.

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    @Michael Nijhawan. Hello neighbor! I would love to connect in person. Feel free to send me a message and we can exchange info. I am in New Orleans most of this week at the BiggerPockets Conference. We can plan to connect the week after that.

  • New to Real Estate · PDX to Mexico · Member since 2021 · 39 posts · 22 votes
    5y

    Great article, thank you for sharing.  We just had a daughter, after many years of trying, and feel everything I do moving forward, is for her. But I am just getting into the game, late start. But I look forward to the journey and to pass the knowledge and fun down to my kiddo... 

  • Omni CaseyPro Member
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    @Tak Ogihara. Congratulations! You are correct. EVERYTHING you do from this point forward is for them…and this much more meaningful than before. Good luck as you start your parenting and investing journey

  • Rental Property Investor · Dunedin, FL · Member since 2020 · 23 posts · 32 votes
    5y

    Yes, @Omni Casey - sounds great! I look forward to seeing you at the conference and connecting about all these mutual interests we share.  

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