Latest Duplex BRRRR Deal!!!

Latest Duplex BRRRR Deal!!!

Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 474 posts · 580 votes

Here is my current project on another BRRRR duplex in Deer Park, Ohio just outside of Cincinnati. I wanted to share the back story on how I picked up this off market deal with hopes to inspire other investors and hopefully add value to your investing!

For those who I have not met yet on BP, I am a police officer/real estate agent/MF investor in a small town near Cincinnati, Ohio. While out on patrol I was dispatched to this home for a burglary report. Long story short, this lady inherited this house that had sat vacant for 18 months, and she believed an ex-roommate of her late brother had broken a window out to steal some beer and a TV. She was crying and explaining this house was a money pit for her, she had no money or knowledge to fix it up to sell it, and just hoped someone would burned it down honestly.. I know telling a cop this... 

I explained to her that Deer Park is a great real estate market and she could sell this home as is. I also explained that I am a real estate agent/investor and buy and sell homes in this neighborhood often, if she would like my help. I gave her a card, and took the report. She called me later that same day and asked if she could get 50k for this duplex. I told her I would would be willing to buy the home, but I wanted to bring my contractors through it to price out renovation cost. After pricing out the entire renovation, which includes all new plumbing, electrical, framing, insulation, interior and exterior work, and a complete cosmetic gut and rehab, I could pay her 40k. She was extremely happy to be rid of this money pit, and I was adding a great BRRRR deal to my portfolio.

The numbers:

Final purchase price: $39,000.

Rehab budget: $60,000.

Current as completed appraisal value: $155,000.

Market rents: Unit 1 (2/1, 850 sqft) $875, Unit 2 (1/1 650 sqft)  $675. Garage for rent (20x20) $100+/mo

Total: $1650+/mo

Based on my current projections, after renovations, and refinancing to a 30yr fixed conventional mortgage. I will cash out around $5,000 in profits, have 25% equity with zero money left in the deal, and cash flow around $400/mo after all expenses. This should work out to be my best deal yet.

Thank for you taking the time to read my story, my hope is that you will take away a few points. Regardless of your profession, you need to be telling everyone what you do and what you are looking for, I have found a few deals this way. If no one knows, opportunity cant find you. There are still deals out there, they are harder to find, but deals like this are out there and do happen all over the country everyday. Even though I got a great deal on this duplex, this is a massive project that will take months to complete. So put yourself in a position to take the opportunities that life will present to you, and make deals a win-win anytime you can. I got a great deal, she got rid of a massive liability with zero cost or effort. 

I will post some before and after photos of the project as I have them. I would love to hear your thoughts and projects you are working on too!

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Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
7y

Win - she sold the money pit

Win - you got a nice BRRRR

Win - roommate got some 18 month old beer

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  • Loveland, OH · Member since 2016 · 15 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    Deer Park is solid.  Looks like a lot of work but if all goes as planned, that's a win for everybody.  Congratulations and good luck!

  • Investor · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2013 · 152 posts · 126 votes
    7y

    Congratulations, that is a pretty sweet deal there ! It's also a good reminder that you never know how or where that next deal will fall into your lap

  • Rental Property Investor · Lebanon, OH · Member since 2016 · 220 posts · 228 votes
    7y

    Congrats Joe! This looks like another great deal for your portfolio. You are well on your way man!

    Also, thank you for your service as a police officer. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Willoughby, OH · Member since 2014 · 560 posts · 690 votes
    7y

    solid! way to keep your ears open!

  • Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    Win - she sold the money pit

    Win - you got a nice BRRRR

    Win - roommate got some 18 month old beer

  • Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 474 posts · 580 votes
    7y

    @Joe Walker Definitely! I have another duplex down the street, which was my first rental property. I enjoy working and investing in Deer Park! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 474 posts · 580 votes
    7y

    @Peter Fennig Absolutely true, my last 6 unit deal was off market as well. One of my tenants just happened to mentioned the elderly owners who self managed were complaining about the building and all of the work. (It was next to my other 6 unit I already bought.) So I reached out to them and was able to buy it for a good price off market. Just simply telling my tenants that I would love to buy other buildings in the area landed me a good one. 

    @Lee Yoder Much appreciated, I hope all is going well for you as also!

    @Jeff Brower Thank you!

    @Mike Dymski That is my favorite comment so far! She had only went to the house a few times since her brother had passed 18 months ago, so we had zero clue who broke in or when. I hope they enjoyed the beers....!

  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 214 posts · 107 votes
    7y

    Awesome Joe.  You're doing an amazing job.

  • Engineer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    That is an amazing deal. Very bullish on Deer Park/Silverton, I think these neighborhoods have the highest upside of any in Cincinnati honestly, but I am probably biased because it is where I do all of my projects. Look forward to seeing the finished product.

  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    Thanks for sharing your story and keep us posted! 

  • Cincinnati Ohio · Member since 2018 · 13 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Nice! I'm in Cincy. Started studying REI a few months ago. I have a small lending deal at 12% over 6mo (my 1st re investment) and I'm about to purchase my first flip. I'm excited and a little nervous. If you are up for a networking meetup, let me know! I love to pick the brains of those who have been doing this and have more experience than me.

  • Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 474 posts · 580 votes
    7y

    @Craig H. Thank you man!

    @Matthew Gaston I like those neighborhoods as well, I used to be a cop in Silverton before Deer Park. I would continue buying there if the right deal comes along such as this one, but taxes and water are expensive so it is hard to make the numbers work on most deals. 

    @Russell Bullock Thank you, will do!

    @Kimberly Ranz We have a meet up group in Deer Park each month hosted by @Joe Fairless, connect with @Grant Rothenburger for more information!

  • Investor · Taylor Mill, KY · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 964 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Joseph Cornwell:

    @Craig H. Thank you man!

    @Matthew Gaston I like those neighborhoods as well, I used to be a cop in Silverton before Deer Park. I would continue buying there if the right deal comes along such as this one, but taxes and water are expensive so it is hard to make the numbers work on most deals. 

    @Russell Bullock Thank you, will do!

    @Kimberly Ranz We have a meet up group in Deer Park each month hosted by @Joe Fairless, connect with @Grant Rothenburger for more information!

    Meetup info: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/644064-cincinnati-meet-up-ultimate-house-hack 

  • Investor · Copper Center, Alaska/Indiana · Member since 2018 · 44 posts · 33 votes
    7y

    Thank you for protecting your community!  As a former police officer, I understand how stressful this line of work can be. As a new investor, the entire process can be overwhelming. Thank you for submitting this detailed narrative of ACTIONS. It is an inspiration to many!

    JP Murphy, Valdez, Alaska

  • Investor · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2016 · 222 posts · 294 votes
    7y

    @Joseph Cornwell Congrats! I also just finished up a BRRRR in Anchorage, Alaska. Its nice to see other peoples victories too. It keeps me motivated :) I wish we could find deals at this price where I live, but its pretty much unheard of. But you can still find deals though.

    check out my post here on BP https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/223/topics/643276-my-first-brrrr-with-pictures?page=1

  • Member since 2018 · 29 posts · 20 votes
    7y

    @Joseph Cornwell Congrats and great perspective! Closed mouths don't get fed....as my grandma would say. We don't have to be one dimensional as we move through life. We can branch out and do other things as you're currently proving. I look forward to before and after pictures of your project.

    Cheers,

    Mike

  • Houston, TX · Member since 2018 · 44 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    That whole story was very inspiring.  By the way, was there any AFTER photos shared here? Wasn't able to see any. 

  • Southern, MD · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    Great job @Joseph Cornwell, way to stay alert to snag a great deal!  Thanks for sharing, I look forward to seeing how the rehab comes along.

  • Rental Property Investor · Ramsey, NJ · Member since 2016 · 72 posts · 55 votes
    7y

    I love a story where everyone wins and an investor lands a killer return. This is what it's all about. Textbook! Nicely done. 

  • las vegas, NV · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    Congrats on your "off market deal" which is very similar to a "pocket listing" in agent parlance.

    "I would continue buying there if the right deal comes along such as this one, but taxes and water are expensive so it is hard to make the numbers work on most deals."

    Taxes. Yep, too bad many people these days demand and vote for BIG goverment politicians and policies that require BIG taxes. So, investors export their cash to other jurisdictions where the numbers DO work. That's called voting too - without having to wait till the next election cycle.

    Isn't it sad politics is so embedded in many layers of real estate? Oh well, being a savvy investor is one way to sidestep these financial landmines.

  • Modesto, CA · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    The cash flow is a little skinny.......I bought this house with mother in Law for $125k  my payment are $850....hardly any work needed just basic paint and carpet I did add laminate flooring and a new water heater  ....bought it as an owner occupied  after I moved my payment were 850 piti the main house rents for $1375 the mother in law rents for $750...total of $2125 - today it apprised at 265k  got in with 5k and change seller paid a good chunk of closing cost  I manage it myself and payments are made direct deposit every month ....so overhead is very low .....cash-cow for a house with mother in law

  • Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2017 · 20 posts · 5 votes
    7y

    Congrats . . . Curious if you did the purchase and rehab expense out of pocket, private or hard money ?

  • Contractor · Bessemer, AL · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 15 votes
    7y

    Thank you Joseph for sharing a great story and your success on the deal! May you and all the BP family be blessed to find many more in 2019. 

  • Investor · Kent, WA · Member since 2015 · 14 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    NICE!  Thank you for sharing as it is a great reminder that not all is bleak out there and deals are still there to find. :)

  • Real Estate Agent · Merritt Island, FL · Member since 2017 · 974 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Joseph Cornwell - way to leverage your job into a REI deal!! BTW, from the pics, you might be able to fix it up for less than $60k. Dunno, just guessing.

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