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Andrew Glisson
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A $3,500 water heater replacement should cost $1,600. The difference is who's doing..

Andrew Glisson
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๐“๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ค๐ž๐ž๐ฉ๐ฌ ๐œ๐จ๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฎ๐ฉ ๐ข๐ง ๐Œ๐ž๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ซ๐ž๐š๐๐ฌ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ญ๐ก ๐ข๐ญ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ฐ๐ง ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. ๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐š๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐š๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ž ๐ข๐ญ๐ž๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐š๐ฅ ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐ž๐ญ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ž๐ซ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ฌ๐จ๐ง ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐œ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐ฅ, ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฎ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐š๐ฅ.

The standard property management maintenance model works like this: tenant reports an issue, PM dispatches a third-party vendor, vendor charges retail rates, PM adds a coordination fee or percentage markup, and the owner gets a bill that is 50-100% higher than the actual cost of labor and materials. Nobody in that chain has an incentive to keep costs down except the owner, and the owner is the one with the least visibility.

A water heater replacement is the clearest example. Through a vendor network in Memphis, that job typically runs about $3,500. The actual cost of the unit plus labor from a technician who already knows the property is closer to $1,600. Same equipment installed. Same result. The delta is pure margin extraction.

The velocity problem compounds it. Vendor-dependent operations take 3-5 days to schedule routine repairs. On a short-term rental, that gap means cancelled bookings, refunds, and damaged review scores. On a long-term rental, it is the slow maintenance response that quietly pushes good tenants toward not renewing. Either way, the owner pays twice: once for the delayed repair and again for the revenue or tenant it cost.

The operators I see consistently outperforming in this market have one thing in common: they control their maintenance pipeline directly. Dedicated technicians who know the properties. Same-day or next-day response on most issues. Photo documentation on every work order so the owner can verify scope and completion.

If you are evaluating a PM in Memphis or any market, the maintenance question is the one that reveals the most about how the economics actually work. Not "do you handle maintenance?" Every PM says yes. The real question is: who physically does the work, and how does the billing flow?

๐˜พ๐™ช๐™ง๐™ž๐™ค๐™ช๐™จ ๐™ฌ๐™๐™–๐™ฉ ๐™ค๐™ฉ๐™๐™š๐™ง๐™จ ๐™–๐™ง๐™š ๐™จ๐™š๐™š๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™ข๐™–๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™š๐™ฃ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™˜๐™š ๐™˜๐™ค๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™จ ๐™ž๐™ฃ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š๐™ž๐™ง ๐™ข๐™–๐™ง๐™ ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™จ. ๐™„๐™จ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ซ๐™š๐™ฃ๐™™๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ข๐™–๐™ง๐™ ๐™ช๐™ฅ ๐™ฅ๐™ง๐™ค๐™—๐™ก๐™š๐™ข ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ง๐™ข ๐™š๐™ซ๐™š๐™ง๐™ฎ๐™ฌ๐™๐™š๐™ง๐™š, ๐™ค๐™ง ๐™–๐™ง๐™š ๐™จ๐™ค๐™ข๐™š ๐™ข๐™–๐™ง๐™ ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™จ ๐™–๐™๐™š๐™–๐™™ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™ˆ๐™š๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™๐™ž๐™จ ๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™ž๐™จ?

-- Andrew, Memphis TN

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Richard F.#1 Managing Your Property Contributor
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Richard F.#1 Managing Your Property Contributor
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Given that the actual cost of a 50 gallon Rheem electric at HD today, here, is $669, and the fact that a typical R&R in a detached home takes under 2 hours for one person, I find the $1600 you quote as pretty inflated to begin with. Sure, there are a lot of possible scenarios that make it more difficult, but this is an honest baseline.

As a retired PM of well over 20 years, I never worked for a company that marked up vendor invoices or charged coordination fees for very routine work. IMHO, that is a straight up Red Flag, and I would recommend never signing a management agreement with those terms until/unless you are able to determine that it is standard practice for the region. There is literally almost zero cost to the PM to justify such a charge on top of a typical percentage of income collected fee. Accounting is a fundamental element of PM, and processing invoices is part of that task. One, or ten, additional invoices require seconds per invoice to enter into the books. It takes seconds for the PM to review and approve each invoice. Taking phone or email requests for service are also the most fundamental components of PM tasks. Charging hundreds, thousands, of dollars to "coordinate" a water heater replacement is ridiculous. 

A water heater "boiler" unit which operates with OVER 199,999 btu; or a "compact" undercounter or a tankless unit are more complex, and can certainly result in higher installation costs. 

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