New Wholesaler Here – Where Are You Pulling Your Lists From?

New Wholesaler Here – Where Are You Pulling Your Lists From?

Member since 2026 · 4 posts · 1 vote

Hey BP community! I'm brand new to wholesaling and trying to figure out the best places to pull lead lists so I actually have motivated sellers to call.

I've heard people mention driving for dollars, PropStream, the county courthouse, and a few other methods but I don't know what's actually working in today's market.

A few specific questions:

• Where are you pulling your lists from (paid tools, free sources, county records, etc.)?

• What list type is converting best for you right now – absentee owners, pre-foreclosure, tax delinquent, probate?

• Any free or low-cost ways to get started before investing in software?

• What's one mistake you made early on with lead generation you wish you avoided?

I'm in the Jax, FL market but would love general advice too. Any experienced wholesalers willing to share what's working would be hugely appreciated. Happy to connect and learn!

Thanks in advance 🙏

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Real Estate Broker · Atlanta · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 606 votes
5mo

@Matt Coltman I would say the best lists right now are pre-foreclosure, tax delinquent and probate as those have real motivation. Driving for dollars and using county records is still one of the highest ROI ways to start. Also, some investors use Propwire as a free tool to pull lists before moving into paid platforms like PropStream. The biggest mistake is going after huge, generic lists with no distress. Smaller, targeted lists and consistent follow up will outperform every time.

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  • Real Estate Broker · Atlanta · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 606 votes
    5mo

    @Matt Coltman I would say the best lists right now are pre-foreclosure, tax delinquent and probate as those have real motivation. Driving for dollars and using county records is still one of the highest ROI ways to start. Also, some investors use Propwire as a free tool to pull lists before moving into paid platforms like PropStream. The biggest mistake is going after huge, generic lists with no distress. Smaller, targeted lists and consistent follow up will outperform every time.

  • Wholesaler · Member since 2025 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    5mo

    @Matt Coltman I'ts great connecting with you on here.

    I would say don't overthink to much about which specific software or what specific buybox your targeting.

    Choose a reputable software(Propstream, BatchLeads, DealMachine) and if you are not ready to make an investment into those yet, start calling FSBO on Zillow. Once you close your first deal you can reinvest that money into softwares.

    Choose a buybox, whether thats Vacant lots in Charleston, SC With a purchase price of $50-$100k with an ARV of $90-$300k or Single family homes in Atlanta, GA with a purchase price of $180,000 – $320,000 with an ARV of $300,000 – $520,000 and STICK TO IT.

    Spend the next 30 days cold calling and set KPI's for yourself( For example, 3 hours of talk time per day, 100 dials per day).

    Once you make a decision on which path your going to focus on, set KPI's for yourself and stay consistent.

    Best of luck to you.

  • Member since 2026 · 43 posts · 21 votes
    5mo

    PropStream's good. They have good filters you can make and overall it's an investor-friendly software. Pre-foreclosure, tax delinquent, probate and fire with a good the marketing execution. 

    What marketing channel are you currently using?

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2026 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    1mo

    Depends how much legwork you want to do. Paid tools (PropStream, Batch) are the easy button but you're mailing the same stacked list as everyone else, and the foreclosure data especially runs stale. The lists that convert best for me are the ones pulled fresh and that other people aren't already hammering, foreclosure filings straight from the county being the main one.

    Since you're in Jacksonville: Duval's foreclosure cases run through the Clerk of Court as lis pendens, and the scheduled auctions are on the county's RealForeclose site with the case, address, and judgment amount. Cross-reference the judgment against the Property Appraiser's assessed value and you can pull the high-equity ones before they hit anyone's mail merge. More work than buying a list, but it's fresh and it's yours.

    What's converting best for you so far? Cold calling, mail, or texts?

  • Investor · Member since 2026 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    1mo

    @Matt Coltman what state we are talking about? There are different rules of the game that could limit your efforts 

  • Investor · Pacific Northwest · Member since 2026 · 538 posts · 304 votes
    1mo

    If you’re brand new, I’d resist the urge to spend much money looking for the “best list.”

    Most wholesalers eventually discover that everybody has access to roughly the same absentee-owner, high-equity, pre-foreclosure and tax-delinquent data.

    The list itself usually isn’t the edge.

    The edge is how fresh the signal is, how many signals overlap, and whether you’re still following up after everyone else quits.

    An absentee owner with 70% equity isn’t necessarily motivated. They may have owned a perfectly performing rental for fifteen years and have absolutely no interest in selling it.

    But now suppose that same owner is:

    • Out of state
    • Tax delinquent
    • Carrying an active code violation
    • Has owned the property for 22 years
    • Property appears vacant
    • Recently had a probate or other life event connected to ownership

    Now you’re not looking at a “list.”

    You’re looking at a situation.

    That’s how I’d approach lead generation.

    Since you’re in Jacksonville, I’d start by learning the public-record ecosystem before buying every software subscription somebody recommends.

    Duval County gives you access to a surprising amount of useful information through the Clerk, county/city records and property records.

    I’d learn how to find recent:

    • Foreclosure filings
    • Tax-deed activity
    • Probate cases
    • Liens
    • Code-enforcement problems
    • Ownership transfers
    • Long-term ownership
    • Absentee ownership

    Then combine those records rather than treating each category as its own campaign.

    For example, a code violation by itself might not mean much.

    A code violation + absentee owner + 18 years ownership + substantial equity is a very different lead.

    That is what people mean when they talk about “stacking” lists, but I think the better way to think about it is stacking evidence of a problem.

    Driving for dollars is still useful for exactly the same reason.

    You’re collecting information that isn't perfectly represented in a database yet.

    You see the tarp on the roof.

    The waist-high grass.

    The boarded window.

    The overflowing mailbox.

    The house where somebody started a renovation and apparently disappeared halfway through it.

    Then you take that physical signal and add the ownership/public-record layer.

    That can be much more interesting than downloading 10,000 absentee owners and calling everyone with the same script.

    For a beginner with limited money, I’d rather see you build a list of 200 properties you understand than buy a list of 20,000 properties you know nothing about.

    You’ll learn considerably more.

    I’d also avoid becoming obsessed with which category has the “highest conversion rate.”

    Probate can work.

    Tax delinquency can work.

    Pre-foreclosure can work.

    Absentee ownership can work.

    Driving for dollars can work.

    But motivation lives at the individual-owner level, not the spreadsheet-column level.

    Two people can both be six months behind on taxes for completely different reasons.

    One desperately wants out.

    The other forgot about a $700 tax bill on a vacant lot and could pay it tomorrow.

    The record gets you to the conversation.

    The conversation tells you whether there’s actually a deal.

    The biggest early mistake I’d avoid is burning through leads instead of working them.

    New wholesalers tend to think:

    Called. No answer. Next.

    Called twice. No answer. Bad lead.

    Seller said no. Delete.

    Then they go buy another list because they’ve “worked” the previous one.

    Meanwhile, the owner who told you no in February gets a code violation in April, loses a tenant in June and decides in August that they’re finally done with the property.

    The person who follows up intelligently is there.

    The person constantly searching for fresh leads has already forgotten the owner exists.

    So I’d build a basic system from the beginning that records the property, owner, reason it entered your universe, every contact attempt, what you learned, and when the next follow-up should happen.

    Nothing sophisticated is required.

    But don't make yourself rediscover the same person six months later.

    I’d also pay attention to lead age.

    A giant national data provider may eventually identify a problem, but if you can pull a newly recorded local filing close to the source, you may be seeing the situation before it has been packaged and resold to every investor in Jacksonville.

    That’s one reason learning county records is worth the aggravation.

    You are learning where the data comes from instead of only learning where to buy it after somebody else processed it.

    Once you understand that, something like PropStream becomes much more useful.

    Then software is accelerating a process you understand rather than becoming the process.

    If I were starting in Jacksonville with very little money, I’d probably pick one or two distress signals, stay inside a relatively tight geographic area, manually research the properties, add driving-for-dollars observations where practical, and get very good at follow-up.

    Then I’d track results.

    Not just contracts.

    How many records became actual owners?

    How many had usable contact information?

    How many conversations?

    How many genuinely motivated sellers?

    How many appointments?

    How many offers?

    How many contracts?

    Once you know where your funnel is breaking, then spend money fixing that part.

    If you’re generating plenty of good prospects but can’t reach them, maybe better contact data makes sense.

    If you're reaching people but nobody is motivated, your targeting probably needs work.

    If you're talking to motivated sellers but never getting contracts, buying another list isn't going to solve your problem.

    That distinction will save you a lot of money.

    And one final thing since you’re in Florida: make sure you understand the legal side of whatever wholesaling structure you’re using, especially assignments, disclosures and the line between selling your contractual interest and performing activity that requires a real-estate license.

    Lead generation is the exciting part when you start.

    Clean contracts and clear disclosures become much more exciting the first time there’s $25,000 sitting between two parties who disagree about what you told them.

    If I were starting over, I’d spend less time hunting for the magical list and more time becoming extremely good at identifying why this owner, of this property, might have a reason to do something today.

    That question is the list.

  • Real Estate Agent · CA · Member since 2026 · 29 posts · 8 votes
    1mo

    i use the MLS to find distressed properties or properties within my buyers' buy box. these are considered warm leads as they already have a selling agent ready to engage.

  • Investor · Austin TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    1mo

    Here is the thing, you are thinking in the wrong direction. There is no magic list thats working for everyone, otherwise everyone would work that list and it would be useless. You are going to have to try several things and see what works in your market. Every list is a good list if you're consistent with it. Market research will tell you what is happening in your market. Are you in a market where rents are falling because there are too many units on the market? Then go after tired landlords. Especially those with multiple properties. Are you in a market thats seeing increased foreclosure activity? Then preforeclosures and short sales and REOs are the direction you should move in. How much have property taxes increased in your market in the last 24-48 months? If its higher than average, look for the people being squeezed. Their income hasnt kept up with inflation and they cannot afford to keep bleeding money. Or a market where the cost of insurance has doubled or triped in the last 12-24 months. Look for the people who need out because they cannot afford to stay. Look where other people arent looking. Everyone is pulling the same cheap lists and calling the same people and using the same crappy "skip tracing" and getting the same wrong numbers. The only way to get better results is to stop trying to do what everyone else is doing and do something different. 

    • Real Estate Agent · CA · Member since 2026 · 29 posts · 8 votes
      1mo
      Quote from @Lydia R.:

      Here is the thing, you are thinking in the wrong direction. There is no magic list thats working for everyone, otherwise everyone would work that list and it would be useless. You are going to have to try several things and see what works in your market. Every list is a good list if you're consistent with it. Market research will tell you what is happening in your market. Are you in a market where rents are falling because there are too many units on the market? Then go after tired landlords. Especially those with multiple properties. Are you in a market thats seeing increased foreclosure activity? Then preforeclosures and short sales and REOs are the direction you should move in. How much have property taxes increased in your market in the last 24-48 months? If its higher than average, look for the people being squeezed. Their income hasnt kept up with inflation and they cannot afford to keep bleeding money. Or a market where the cost of insurance has doubled or triped in the last 12-24 months. Look for the people who need out because they cannot afford to stay. Look where other people arent looking. Everyone is pulling the same cheap lists and calling the same people and using the same crappy "skip tracing" and getting the same wrong numbers. The only way to get better results is to stop trying to do what everyone else is doing and do something different. 


       I see, so go where momentum in your own locallized market is heading. 

  • Coral Springs, FL · Member since 2018 · 468 posts · 101 votes
    1mo

    @Matt Coltman Lydia R. nailed it — "do something different" — and Michael Eskenasy gave you the framework ("learn the public-record ecosystem"). Let me give you the specific play that ties both of those together, since you're in Jacksonville and it's 100% free.

    Duval County runs tax deed sales. Florida is a tax-deed state, which means when owners fall 2+ years behind on property taxes, the county doesn't just file a lien — they auction the actual deed. The Clerk of Court publishes the list before the auction with the property address, legal description, and opening bid (which is just the back taxes + fees owed — often $5K-$30K on properties worth $100K-$300K+).

    Here's why this is the ultimate version of everything Michael and Jason said:

    The county already did ALL the work of identifying motivated sellers. They identified owners who are 2+ years delinquent. They sent every required legal notice. They ran the legal process. They set the auction date. They published the list. You didn't need PropStream, skip tracing, a batch dialer, or a $99/mo software subscription. You just needed the Clerk of Court's website.

    And here's what makes it different from pulling a tax-delinquent list and cold calling: these owners have already lost the property (or are about to). There's no "are you interested in selling?" conversation — there's an auction date. The clock is running. The motivation isn't theoretical, it's a legal countdown.

    For a wholesaler, the play is: get the tax deed sale list, research the properties (Duval Property Appraiser for assessed values — also free), identify the ones with the biggest spread between opening bid and market value, then line up cash buyers who want to bid. You can assign your bidder position or partner with someone who has the capital to bid.

    Lydia said "look where other people aren't looking." Everyone on this thread is talking about which software to buy or which list to download. The tax deed auction list is sitting on the county website for free, and it's the most pre-qualified, highest-motivation list that exists — because the county already verified every single distress signal with a legal process that took 2+ years.

    Since you're in Jax specifically: check the Duval County Clerk of Court site for the next tax deed auction date and the property list. Cross-reference each property's opening bid against the Property Appraiser's just value. The ones with the widest gaps are your starting point. Then find cash buyers in the Jax investor Facebook groups (there are several active ones) who want first look at the properties before auction day.

    Zero software cost. Zero marketing cost. Just county records and hustle.

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