Wholesaler · Madison , WI · Member since 2016 · 79 posts · 64 votes
Its illegal to market a property you don't own.
That's acting as a broker/agent
Market the contract.
It's scary when you're starting out in this business, one minute you're on cloud 9, you finally found something that could potentially get you out that horrible 9-5 job, then.....you come to BiggerPockets and you hear how you can't do this or that as a wholesaler, they make it seem almost impossible.
Try this:
In your contract put a clause that states: Seller relinquishes the rights to market the property to (insert your COMPANY name).
Some people won't like it some won't care, if this clause works in your state (speak to an attorney first!) Then you just found a viable loophole.
If it is a house I don't want to by buy for myself then I tell the sellers I will be marketing the property to my buyers. That is the purpose of the wording.
It's better to have a clause in the contract that allows you to assign the contract. DON'T but your name and/or assigns on the buyers line. Also in the contract you should have a statement 'This contract is contingent on my partners approval.' This allows you to back out of the contract if you can't find a buyer.
Ive been seeing some smart people make really dumb comments today... A rehabber ALSO doesn't close unless they think they can resell..a buy and hold investor doesn't buy unless they think they can rent it out at a price that makes economic sense..
I think the REAL problem people have is that a guy with a few hundred dollars can negotiate his way into controlling an asset 100,000 times his net worth and make a profit. Like i said before people are basically hinting towards the whole: if you're not rich yet or if you dont have excellent credit you can't be in real estate. That's BullSh*t.
If my grandmother had a house she couldn't sell or afford to sell and was in a situation where she needed or really wanted a fast sale, I don't see the problem...
They're killing unarmed men and raising the prices on life saving medication by 600+% let us make our Damn money, there's serious issues in this world.
I personally don't lie to sellers, I don't trick old ladies, honestly if I saw that the old lady needed as much as she could get I'd pass the deal to my agent and cut myself out the deal. Some people in this business actually DO operate with integrity, minimize risk and help people out.
@Allen Felker Not sure where you get that those that have successful careers in real estate were born into it or had a silver spoon..
Real estate sales last I saw only paid you for success.. NO one gives you anything.
this all comes down to individual you either have the skills to sell or you don't.
its more of a a god given talent.. there are sales training courses that will make you better but you have to have the ability as I stated some innate ability.
Or you get yourself educated and work in the industry like the Agent you work with.
but the whoas me I was poor and the man is holding me down well that does not resonate !!!
Allen Felker I've seen you post on a few different threads now and I'm interested in how you got to wholesaling? I read your profile but how did your first deal look? And how did you get that deal? Marketing?
Demarrius my first deal was honestly pure luck, I cold called FSBO's for an entire month.
Situation: Divorce, abusive relationship.
My agent partner helped with the Comps, etc.
@Jay I bet we have two VERY different opinions on what "poor" is TRUST ME ON THAT ONE, ever had to donate plasma just to buy pampers? And there's more..
I will never become an agent if they ever do change the laws who gives a sh*t I have a private lender, by the time they change laws I'll probably be contemplating retirement.
If it is a house I don't want to by buy for myself then I tell the sellers I will be marketing the property to my buyers. That is the purpose of the wording.
@Allen Felker not to say who was poorer.. but i remember helping my dad go door to door delivering phone books for a penny a piece... and wondering why we had no back seats in our 1958 VW bug LOL. been there done that.. don't like it..
but now that I have had a nice career in RE .. and remember your in the honeymoon.. your in a rising market.. rising tide raises all boats.. its not always going to be like this.
but its a great industry.. and I have my teams that I fund nationwide ... all nice family folks and I proud to be their money partners.
The trick is to keep your perspective and remember where you came from, the hell you had to go through to get there and the hell others are going through on their own journey.
@David my goal is to put myself into a position where I can help people get started in this business, not some "Ra-Ra" "Think your way into a million dollar" guru type but maybe just a mentor for a few dozen people, can't wait to see where this goes.
A rehabber ALSO doesn't close unless they think they can resell..a buy and hold investor doesn't buy unless they think they can rent it out at a price that makes economic sense..
The glaringly obvious difference being that B&H Investors and Flippers don't make offers without the intent and ability to actually purchase the property - wholesalers quite often do exactly that on the hope they'll be able to find someone else to buy it - right, wrong, or indifferent.
I like that you're passionate about the business, and if you're a follower of the Michael Quarles way, I think you'll be fine, both ethically and financially. Just don't forget that everyone invests for different reasons.
I have zero interest in wholesaling - I used to be in sales, made a ton of money, hated going to work everyday. And that's what wholesaling is: a sales job. I'm at a point where I want to build passive income and wealth - big paychecks? Meh, I'd rather have time to spend with my family (and I love getting paid 24/7!)