Wholesale Deal in Missouri

Wholesale Deal in Missouri

New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes

I currently have a deal under contract for 72k. I’m trying to wholesale it for 90k, but the owner of the property owes 1,750 in taxes for the year 2018. If everything is played out well and find a buyer this would be my first wholesale deal. My question is, should I take the contract to escrow without a buyer? Or wait until I find a buyer then take both the contract and assignment contract to the title company I plan to use? Also, what if I don’t find a buyer?

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HVAC Tech · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2015 · 423 posts · 223 votes
7y

@Raul De La Paz There is absolutely nothing more important than keeping your word in business, and life for that matter. But What's done is done at this point. Just bust butt and get out there and find a buyer. Type in Google I need to sell my house fast and call absolutely every number you see. If you sell it for 72k, so be it, you will have held up your end of the deal and you will have gained tons of experience in the process. I respect how you kept your cool w John and continued responding, but ain't nothing worse than a shister. You get a bad name, it's game over, as it should be. I wish you the best of luck.

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  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    if you do not find a buyer congratulations on your new purchase

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @John Thedford

    Could I back out of the deal if I don’t find a buyer?

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    Did you misrepresent yourself as the buyer?

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @John Thedford

    No, but my contract says I’ll purchase it subject to my partners agreement.

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    Do you have a partner or is that just a lie?

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    If you do not have a partner then we have a word for that it is called fraud

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    Why would somebody sign a contract unless they were led to believe they had a true buyer?

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @John Thedford

    Do you not know how wholesaling works?

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @Raul De La Paz

    I can back out of the deal, just depends on the terms of the contract.

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Raul De La Paz:

    @John Thedford

    Do you not know how wholesaling works?

     Yes...and I know what a FRAUD AND SCAMMER IS! Signing contracts with weasel clauses with no intention of buying is called FRAUD!

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Raul De La Paz:

    @Raul De La Paz

    I can back out of the deal, just depends on the terms of the contract.

     Would it be OK if someone pulled this on your loved one? Would it just be the cost of doing business or would you call them a liar and crook?

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @John Thedford

    Wholesaling isn’t scamming.... it’s just another way to provide value to people that are in need to sell their house quickly. Also, it’s a great way for investors to find off market deals. You must be a real estate agent or a broker that despises wholesaling...

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Raul De La Paz:

    @Raul De La Paz

    I can back out of the deal, just depends on the terms of the contract.

     It sounds like you deceived the seller. I am sure they will be happy if they find out the truth. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Raul De La Paz:

    @John Thedford

    Wholesaling isn’t scamming.... it’s just another way to provide value to people that are in need to sell their house quickly. Also, it’s a great way for investors to find off market deals. You must be a real estate agent or a broker that despises wholesaling...

     I don't like crooks LOL. WHAT "value" are you bringing to this seller? 

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @John Thedford

    He knows I’m wholesaling it? The owner of the property needs to get rid of it because he doesn’t have the money to fix up his own property. The property is in really bad shape so if help him get a quick sell..he can get out of a house that costing him instead of making him money. A new investor can come in, put money into the property, and resell it for a profit. This would be a great home for a new family to live in after it’s fixed up. It’s a win win for all parties.

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Raul De La Paz:

    @John Thedford

    He knows I’m wholesaling it? The owner of the property needs to get rid of it because he doesn’t have the money to fix up his own property. The property is in really bad shape so if help him get a quick sell..he can get out of a house that costing him instead of making him money. A new investor can come in, put money into the property, and resell it for a profit. This would be a great home for a new family to live in after it’s fixed up. It’s a win win for all parties.

     Where is the "value" if you back out? Where is the value using weasel clauses? It sounds like you deceived the seller. This is the typical M/O of FRAUDS AND SCAMMERS. How does he "win" if you back out?

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @John Thedford

    The value comes from connecting the buyer and the investor. Chances are if I didn’t find this off market property he would of been foreclosed and would of ruined his credit. Which, everybody knows there’s nothing more important than your credit score when you’re borrowing money from the bank. So, the seller loses it to the bank/city or gets out of it. I see value in that.

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Raul De La Paz:

    @John Thedford

    The value comes from connecting the buyer and the investor. Chances are if I didn’t find this off market property he would of been foreclosed and would of ruined his credit. Which, everybody knows there’s nothing more important than your credit score when you’re borrowing money from the bank. So, the seller loses it to the bank/city or gets out of it. I see value in that.

     and if you back out using weasel clauses? NO VALUE THERE. He would be MUCH better off dealing with an HONEST agent. They are held to standards....unlike unlicensed broker FRAUDS AND SCAMMERS. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Nowata Oklahoma · Member since 2019 · 61 posts · 37 votes
    7y

    Roul Ive never wholesaled a property before but I believe you should have already had someone lined up to purchase the property ahead of getting into a contract. I believe that's what John was trying to hint around with while he was chewing your a$$ off. That being said he does have a point and im not a lawyer by any means so I cant give you any info on the contract legalities. My suggestion is to form a buyers list ahead of time that you have contacted and know thoroughly what they look for and the numbers that they need. Then once you have a network built you can look and target specific properties that you know one of your contacts will purchase from you. Hope everything works out with you and the seller. 

  • North Bergen, NJ · Member since 2019 · 24 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    Better of hitting the forum asking or looking for an investor in your area or if you have money purchase and flip it yourself.  

    @Raul De La Paz

  • Realtor · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2019 · 76 posts · 42 votes
    7y

    @Raul De La Paz ask the title company. My company slows me to take the 1st contract with $100 escrow and not do any title work until I bring in assignment title. This does slow down the process, but for a first timer it’s a good hedge to not spend money on title work that might not go through.

  • HVAC Tech · Fort Wayne, IN · Member since 2015 · 423 posts · 223 votes
    7y

    @Raul De La Paz There is absolutely nothing more important than keeping your word in business, and life for that matter. But What's done is done at this point. Just bust butt and get out there and find a buyer. Type in Google I need to sell my house fast and call absolutely every number you see. If you sell it for 72k, so be it, you will have held up your end of the deal and you will have gained tons of experience in the process. I respect how you kept your cool w John and continued responding, but ain't nothing worse than a shister. You get a bad name, it's game over, as it should be. I wish you the best of luck.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2016 · 114 posts · 54 votes
    7y

    @Raul De La Paz, yes as John and others have mentioned the legitimate way of wholesaling is build a strong list of buyers and then go find the property as per their criteria. Now that you already have the property under contract just advertise it on Craigslist of course with seller’s permission and see if you can find a buyer. Be Honest and upfront with your seller. Good Luck!

  • New to Real Estate · Paducah, KY · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @Rich Lopes

    Thanks for all the information!!

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