Originally posted by @Jeshua Patrick:
@Jerryll Noorden obviously you have a method of getting leads that works for you; however, to say that DMM is terrible or that it sucks simply because the conversion rates are small shows you do not understand sales as a whole. Sales is a numbers game that requires a thick skin. Individually most techniques are difficult and frustrating; however, if you pool a few together AND work them consistently then you will eventually build momentum and have more leads than you can manage yourself. It’s like a loaded freight train, it takes a long time to get momentum but, once you have it, it’s nearly impossible to stop.
Honestly I was just laughing when I read your response.
YES wtf?! that is EXACTLY what it means.
YES what the hell? because of EXACTLY what I said DMM SUCKS BUTT!!!
If you are telling me that if you spend 300 dollars and you make 500 dolalrs in return ("sales") then the method does not suck?! then my friend.. it is YOU that doesn't know much about sales.
No one is talking about profits. Sure DMM can make you a profit. So can D4d, CC, bandit signs.. but that still can absolutely mean it does suck!
Lets look deeper into why DMM sucks. (note I give DATA!!, not opinions)
The open rate is what 5%?
Out of that 5% open rate about 85% of them are negative responses.
So let me tell you something. ANY mechanical system that is less than 80% efficient is deemed worthless by today's standard.
Now, you have to spend a TON of money for pretty much miserable deals.
You have to skip trace, you have to buy a list, filter the list, have 3 numbers to track which mailer performs better, follow up,
bla bla bla
for what for a miserable 3% success rate?
Dude I have NO idea what and how you measure success and efficiency, but let me tell you something... this is NOT a matter of opinion. This is DATA numbers, facts period.
You can have your opinion by all means! Sure you can do your DMM but you can NOT tell me or anyone that DMM is not terrible.
Where is your proof?
Show me your numbers. Convince me other than just mere words that DMM does not suck.
That is the problem with a bunch of you peops. You throw opinions around and sell them as facts/data.
NO my dude those are OPINIONS.
Let me give you facts. Let me give you what is the "norm" for me. Let me show you want is TRULY a good system.
These leads are FREE
HIGHLY motivated.
Every day
I don't lift a finger.
I do NOTHING
I don't follow up. (They follow up with ME).
I don't track anything
I poop, eat, go to the beach travel, and when I get back, I have 20 more leads waiting for me.
THAT is a good system.
How can you POSSIBLY say that DMM is acceptable?! Why because everyone else is doing it?
Again.
Dont make empty claims. Show me numbers. Prove to me/us/yourself, why you say DMM does not suck. Do not come with unrelated analogies why it doesn't suck. That doesn't work on smart people.
Don't be so fast to tell someone they don't understand something when you have no data to show.
I don't care how much money you make doing DMM. The idea sucks, the system sucks, the application sucks, the yelling sucks, the "remove me from your damn list" sucks
Everything about it sucks!
you know what really irks me?
"Ohh you have found a system that works for you".
NO I didn't find a system that works for me. I found a system that WORKS! Don't belittle my system into it working only for some people. Don't make it seem like luck.
I develop my strategies from actual testing and data I collect. It is experimenting planning and developing. With proven battle tested results! Try to say the same for DMM.
"ohh what color do I make my mailer??" Oh please!
