When/how do you actually bring in a structural engineer on a BRRRR deal?
Looking at a 3BR in Cleveland (44105/44125 area) — sub-$100K, CMHA Section 8 tenant target, DSCR refi down the road. On paper the ARV looks solid and there's real meat on the bone for a rehab.
But walking it, a few things gave me pause:
- Visible level changes room to room, floor-to-wall gaps in a couple spots
- From outside, the house reads like it's tilting slightly inward
- Porch has an obvious lean
- One section of the basement foundation was covered up, couldn't fully inspect it
- Exterior doors have daylight gaps around them (could just be old doors, could be the house shifting)
Nothing about it feels unsafe to walk through, and the walls/roof/panel/water heater are all in decent-to-good shape otherwise. But I'm not qualified to tell the difference between "100-year-old Cleveland house settling" and "foundation problem that eats my whole rehab budget." That's exactly the kind of thing I don't want to guess on.
So — for those of you who've actually done this:
- Who do I call first? Structural engineer (PE-stamped) vs. a foundation repair company? I keep seeing that foundation repair outfits will do a "free inspection" but obviously they're incentivized to find (and sell) a fix. Is it worth paying for an independent PE opinion first, even if it costs more?
- Timing — do you get this done during your due diligence/inspection contingency before you're locked into the deal, or do you close and immediately loop them in during the rehab-planning phase? Assuming I want an out if it's bad news.
- Cost/scope — roughly what does a basic structural assessment run for a single-family in this price range, and what should I actually be asking for? A verbal walkthrough opinion, or a written report? Does a written report matter for anything beyond my own peace of mind — insurance, lender, resale?
- DSCR lenders — has anyone had a lender request or require a structural report as part of underwriting, or is that more of a conventional-loan thing?
- Negotiating leverage — if the engineer comes back with "needs work but not a tear-down," how have you used that report to renegotiate price rather than just walking?
Appreciate any real talk on this — trying to make sure I'm building good habits early rather than learning this lesson the expensive way.
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If something feels off structurally, I'd spend the money on an independent structural engineer during your inspection period before you're fully committed. A few hundred dollars upfront can save you tens of thousands later, and the report can also give you leverage to renegotiate if repairs are needed. In Cleveland, especially with older homes, some settling is normal, but it's never worth guessing when foundation issues could completely change your rehab budget.