Am I a future real estate mogul? This seems too easy...

Am I a future real estate mogul? This seems too easy...

Miami Beach, FL · Member since 2013 · 1 post · 0 votes

Hello,

My name is Kristopher. I’m 22 and live in Miami beach, FL with my parents and girlfriend. I am a college student studying Finance, and I also have a part time job at Bank of America. My parents have owned their own business for 25 years and have become successful. My dad is aprocaching the age of retirement now, and has about 1million in savings. He also profits about $15,000 a week from his business. He plans to either sell his business soon or rent out the property that its on, which he also owns. It is a 2 acre industrial land.

About a year ago, I began speaking to my father about investing in real estate. Rather than just buying and selling for a quick profit, I wanted to get into rental income properites in order to create an income for us. I had always read about these millionaire land lords that started off young and are now extremely successful, all from rental properties, and this business always intrigued me. With the amount of cash my Dad had put away, I knew we would be able to get very good deals in certain areas of Miami that are known for high rental rates. Plus, there are always tons of foreclosures and REO's on the market in Miami. After heavily researching a particular up & coming area that I really liked, we purchased our first property in January of this year. I was very patient and made sure I only pulled the trigger on too-good-to-be-true deals, and I have found them. Today, we own 3 properties in total and plan to keep buying. All properties are within 2 miles of eachother. I've placed each property under an LLC that I formed with my father. We both own 50% of it. I have managed to find tenants for each property quicker than I thought. All 3 properties have been bank owned REO's. Here is a summary of each propery:

Property 1

2 story Duplex

Price - $160,000

Purchased: February 2013

Monthly rental income - $2600 ($1,300 per unit)

Property 2

1 story triplex

Purchased: March 2013

Price $155,000. (115k purchase price with $40,000 in renovations)

Monthly rental income $3000 ($1100 each for 2 units, and $800 for 3rd unit)

Property 3 (incredible deal)

2 story triplex

Purchased May 2013

Price $172,000

Monthly rental income: $3450. ($1250 each for 2 larger units and $950 for smaller unit)

To sum everything up, we have invested $487,000 and we are making $9,050/month in rental income. That is $108,600/year, creating a 22.2% annual return on investment. We bought all the properties cash, and each one took less than 3 weeks to find tenants for. These homes are in a very up & coming area, and are currently worth about 25% more than what we paid for them (there are smaller properties in the same neighborhood selling for much more than what we paid). We were able to get these deals because we paid all cash and because they were bank owned properties. In total I will be paying about $10,000 a year in property taxes.

My father is not really involved in the business (except for paying for everything lol) but I am the one who finds the properties, closes the deals, communicates with listing agents, manages properties, finds tenants, hires contractors for renovation/repairs, etc.

Are numbers like this typical in the real estate market? To be honest, this seems too easy. I plan to purchase a property once a year for as long as I can, and just sit on them and rent them out. I wrote this to get some feedback and maybe some tips on how to stay successful in this business and what I can do to maximize profits. Even though I am only 22, I already own 3 properties and I consider myself very skilled at finding a good deal and knowing when to pull the trigger on something.

Thanks

-Kris

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Investor · Riverside, CA · Member since 2011 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
12y
Originally posted by Kris R.:
Hello,

My name is Kristopher. I’m 22 and live in Miami beach, FL with my parents and girlfriend. I am a college student studying Finance, and I also have a part time job at Bank of America.

To sum everything up, we have invested $487,000 and we are making $9,050/month in rental income. That is $108,600/year, creating a 22.2% annual return on investment.

At first I was like "he is a student of finance, how can he not understand that money lost to expenses does NOT count toward the return on investment?" Then I saw that you work at Bank of America and it all made perfect sense.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Irvine, CA · Member since 2011 · 189 posts · 33 votes
    12y

    Anyways, when you start out with cash, doing buy and holds is indeed easy and there are very good deals out right now. It's a good play if you have a lot of cash and can reach the monthly income level that is enough for you to be happy.

    I'm working on making a few more hundred K now and then will be jumping further into landlording (have 6 paid off SFR's already now) and retirement at 27-28 years old.

    Nothing like real estate for asset retention plus revenue generation all in one.

  • Accountant · Thornton, CO · Member since 2011 · 170 posts · 33 votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Chris G.:

    People can spend a lot of money, especially when you make that much and live in Miami - trust me, I know.

    I agree its possible to spend $720K a year. I just don't understand why someone who is used to spending that much per year and makes that much is considering retirement, especially without a nest egg to support the lifestyle.

  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    The business is the nest egg.  

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    Rental Property Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    There actually was a mention of a similar situation to that of the OP in the book "The Millionaire Next Door". I am sure those who have read the book remember the part about the parents who bought the business for their daughter, and falsely supported it. 

    Essentially the daughter would never be able to know if she could have survived on her own or been successful on her own because the parents padded her income and gave her all the advantages they felt she needed in order to succeed. The result was the opposite, her business bled money.

  • Investor · Santa Barbara, CA · Member since 2013 · 658 posts · 315 votes
    12y

    Real estate should be your secondary concern. Your father is about to give up his incredibly lucrative business. Step into his shoes and run that business, make real estate a hobby on the side.

  • Investor · Batavia, IL · Member since 2014 · 50 posts · 6 votes
    12y

    Please consider this folks. He is a 22 year old young adult who has taken a very active interest in building a business. I have two 21 year olds who do not have the interest or the skill to undertake this effort. I applaud him, even if he is bankrolled by his family. Many parents offer financial support to their kids in much less productive ways. My advice to him is to keep doing what he is doing and continue to build his knowledge.

    Mike

  • Homeowner · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2014 · 854 posts · 511 votes
    12y

    @David Greene Interesting thread to bump.

  • Canal Winchester, OH · Member since 2014 · 151 posts · 55 votes
    12y

    well i think its interesting this thread came back from oct haha but thats ok i didn't see it then and it was a fun read! 

    honestly i envy the guy! i wish my mom would give me a large sum of money to invest but she already has tired her money up in real estate and makes a nice chunk of cash/month... wait wait wait so does this mean when i inherit her money i can make a post bout being the next guru ?? ( family dies i get all the rentals they owned this was tooooo easy! ) ok ok ill stop! 

    but yes it was a great idea talking to you dad and convincing him investing and earning a decent rate of return was the way to go! do i think you are the next guru nope not at all! as many others stated what you have was handed to you! when the cash runs out if you keep building your portfolio the way you are now then yes you might start to earn that title but you my friend are no where close! 

  • Staten Island, NY · Member since 2014 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    11y

    I think it can be said we all wish we could have the same start. That being said, you can definitely take a much larger advantage of your base. With expenses you are looking at only about a 10% total ROI annually where in reality you can be more in the 10% COC return annual, plus equity generated from mortgage pay downs if you leverage 80% bank money against your 1 million dollar pool. Finding the right deals and acting on them can take your current $500k in real estate to $5mm under your control with money you already have. With that kind of money, I would be buying apartment buildings for cashflow

  • Syracuse, NY · Member since 2014 · 23 posts · 5 votes
    11y

    @Kris R.

    Wow, a lot of jealousy on here. Sad to see it, I didn't think that this site would have it on here. Anyway you're doing great so far, just keep plugging! The only thing to remember is that there will always be deals that will be out of your price range so I would take looks at ways to creatively raise money to buy more expensive deals down the line.

    Troy

  • Laurel, MD · Member since 2015 · 101 posts · 30 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Brandon Hicks:

    My advice is always the same for someone starting out....

    Learn to do deals with as little of your own money as possible.

    I don't agree that that is always good advice. The pressure of obligations associated with other peoples money can lead you into costly mistakes - cutting corners financially and taking on tenants that you should reject because you are worried about your ability to make the monthly payments.

  • Rental Property Investor · Hartland, WI · Member since 2014 · 95 posts · 22 votes
    11y

    Hi Kris,

    So at age 22 you had $487,000 to invest???

  • Investor · Miami Beach, FL · Member since 2015 · 175 posts · 82 votes
    11y

    Congrats on the success, but don't let it go to your head. The Miami Beach real estate market is getting more competitive and tougher every year. Be open to learning as much as possible and keep networking with your fellow real estate investors. 

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