New to Real Estate · Victoria, BC · Member since 2020 · 1 post · 0 votes
Hi everyone!
I'm planning on investing in a pretty expensive market Victoria, BC where the 1% or 2% rule doesn't necessarily apply. I'm really new to investing and just wanted to gain clarity on this topic Appreciation vs. Cash Flow, which one is more important? I would love to hear from ya'll who have experienced a plethora of scenarios. Thank you in advance!
Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
6y
Neither, but if I had to pick one it would be cash flow. Cash pays the bills. Assuming I wanted/had to hold the property, I'd rather have one upside-down that generated lots of free cash than one that was appreciating and requiring cash input.
Rental Property Investor · Victoria, British Columbia · Member since 2016 · 36 posts · 25 votes
6y
Hey Dhruv,
We have purchased many cashflowing properties in Victoria. You need to be able to have capital to do so and is a very patient game. In this market cashflow is found in creativity, not the mls listing ad. (@Vincent Baart is very knowledgeable with this)
Their are markets outside of Victoria that have great cashflow And cheaper price points as well.
I run a monthly meet up here and it really helps investors get connected to a great team of service providers and other investors so that you can feel confident in chatting deals!
Lets connect via DM and Im happy to hop on a call to share my knowledge.
Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
6y
Neither, but if I had to pick one it would be cash flow. Cash pays the bills. Assuming I wanted/had to hold the property, I'd rather have one upside-down that generated lots of free cash than one that was appreciating and requiring cash input.
Property Manager · Katy, TX · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
6y
Dhruv,
I used to only look at cashflow when purchasing. Then after a few years of analyzing the returns from my rental portfolio, I realized the appreciation and debt paydown far exceeded the cashflow.
Now, I buy assets that cashflow, but I factor appreciation and debt paydown into the returns.
The property must cashflow so you can buy other assets. It's hard to buy more houses if they don't put money in your pocket every month. But don't forget, it's proper leverage and average appreciation, that create substantial wealth over time - not cashflow.
I'm planning on investing in a pretty expensive market Victoria, BC where the 1% or 2% rule doesn't necessarily apply. I'm really new to investing and just wanted to gain clarity on this topic Appreciation vs. Cash Flow, which one is more important? I would love to hear from ya'll who have experienced a plethora of scenarios. Thank you in advance!
I'm in a pretty expensive market as well with median home price of $340k.
I break even with 10% down on mid-tier, dated, off-market houses at 88% of FMV I can add value to. They take a lot of work to acquire and appreciate nicely.
I cash-flow with rural c-class multis. Not crime c-class, age c-class. Bought off-market directly from tired landlords. Nothing retail MLS appreciates reasonably or cash flows here.
May have to shake up your portfolio mix and buy off-market.
Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
6y
@Dhruv Sarang the key is to find/employ the strategy/ies that work best in the market you want to invest in. Take what the market gives you! The answer to this question is very often market specific and tailored to your goals as an investor.
I’ll take both but given a choice I’ll take appreciation simply because I have other sources of income to pay my bills and support my lifestyle. I’d rather maximize my net worth and cash out in the future via appreciation.
Real Estate Agent · Salem, OR · Member since 2019 · 86 posts · 60 votes
6y
Both, Appreciation tends to be where the big long term money is but that does not mean ignore cash flow. Cash flow will save you when times are tough. In other words, do a combination of the two.