My 12 year old bought his first house

My 12 year old bought his first house

Rental Property Investor · OKC, OK · Member since 2008 · 108 posts · 235 votes

My 12 year old son closed on his first rental property last month - and now he wants to buy another. 

I think every parent wants to teach their kids about finance, and my wife and I like others, have struggled with how best do that without boring them to death.  So over the past summer,we offered to pay our 3 sons to read books (thanks BP podcast for this great idea!) of our choosing.  Our 14 year old son passed on the idea because he doesn't like to read and honestly would rather spend money on clothes and shoes versus saving a single cent.  But our 12 year old is a fervent reader and quickly read "Rich Dad for Teens" while we were on a vacation to Durango.  The deal was, however, that he had to read it and be able to have an intelligent discussion about the book's core concepts.  

On the drive home he began to explain assets versus liabilities, earned income versus passive income, etc. and it seemed as though he really had a solid understanding.  Over the following weeks, he asked if he could use his "stock money" to purchase a rental home since he had seen us building our rental portfolio.  This lead to further discussions about leverage and how to make OPM work with tax savings.  Of course these were cursory discussions but I was surprised at how much he actually retained.  So we told him we would help, but he would have to do most of the heavy lifting and use his own money.   

Over the next few months, he would ask me to drive him around to go look at houses. I really think he was equally as interested in going to lunch with Dad - the boy likes to eat! - but either way, we looked at lots of properties together. He carried around a notebook and wrote down Realtors' numbers, made calls himself, made "guestimates" of repair costs, rents, how much he would need for a down payment, etc. and we practiced crunching the numbers together. I made him talk to the Realtors directly and I was amazed by how many spoke to him as if he was an adult investor and not a 12 year old. We made many offers which didn't pan out. But one evening just after he had gone to bed, I received a call from a Realtor that a HUD property that we had inquired about would go to investor status the following morning and so we put in the offer we had previously discussed and it was accepted the next morning.

We had started a DRIP (dividend reinvestment plan) when each of our boys were born and asked family to give birthday and Christmas gift with that in mind.  So they might get $100 total and $25 of it could spent on a toy and $75 went to their stocks.  And my wife and I made an automated $25 contribution monthly to each of their account.  This grew over times and was intended to be college money or retirement money or whatever they chose once they were adults.  But we agreed to let our 12 year old cash some of this in to buy this house.  So he provided the $11k down payment and $1500 or so closing costs.  Also the approximate $3k in repairs were provided by him.  I understand that there will be some naysayers who will say that it's truly not his house since the mortgage was obtained in our name and the house was titled in our name.  But we have contributed zero dollars of our own money.  And after consultation with accountants and lawyers, this seemed the best way to go about this and we will title it to him at age 18.  Any cash flow will go to replenish his stock account and potentially fund more properties.  And he's definitely involved.  We did take him out of school to attend the closing, I've taught him how to change the locks and do basic repairs, and he has to stay up to date on the financials on his house.  

So my 12 year old is already looking for his next property, my 9 year old now thinks he want to do the same but doesn't yet have the comprehension of the basics to move forward, and my 14 year old just bought another pair of shoes!  

Sorry for the long post, but I'd love to hear other people's experiences and thoughts on this strategy.

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Springfield, MA · Member since 2017 · 11 posts · 14 votes
9y
Wow I'm 23 and I want to be like your 12 year old great job on parenting and he's also doing a great job all the books I've read say to start early I guess he understood that perfectly
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  • Investor · Columbia, MO · Member since 2015 · 27 posts · 25 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @David Dachtera:
    Originally posted by @Eric S.:

    Not to burst your bubble but by the time I was 12 my brother and I had already purchased a nice farmhouse with several outbuildings capable of raising livestock, acquired the equipment needed to run the farm, and paid cash for everything. I have since passed it on to my nephew to continue the family empire. I will post my proof pic since my nephew was over last month to take it home with him:

    Seriously though, you sound like a great dad! I wish someone would have taught me the ropes sooner. Best of luck and thanks for sharing your great story!

    Mind sharing where you got the cash?

    That's not the kind of money kids can save up from their allowances ... 

     We did a lot of odd jobs on dad's farm and shoveled a lot of hog manure to earn it. In retrospect it was totally not worth it, lol.

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 12 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    This is just awesome. Well done. 

  • San Francisco, CA · Member since 2017 · 11 posts · 6 votes
    9y

    Wow your kid is more advanced than I am. That's amazing, a budding entrepreneur! 

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    @Drew Eldridge

    Congratulations to your boy!

    My {soon to be} 6-year old is on a similar trajectory.   Since he was a few months old, he has travelled with Dad to look at properties; meet contractors; show units; collect rents, etc.   He decided when he was just shy of four that he wanted to buy his own {student} rental house [he even has a specific house in-mind] and has been saving all his birthday money and what he earns from selling scrap metal (he gets all the scrap aluminium and copper from our retrofits).  At his current rate, he should have sufficient funds for a downpayment by the time he is 10 {if his interest sustains that long}.

    Of course, he cannot legally enter into a contract (and hence purchase real estate or place a mortgage) until he is 18, so financing will likely be via the Bank of Dad.

    Perhaps in another 5-years, I'll have the same story to tell :-)

  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Drew Eldridge:

    Part of the reason for posting this was my interest in hearing if others have done similar or if anyone had thoughts on similar strategies.  Thanks!

    First of all - congrats, Drew!  Awesome job and thank you for sharing this!

    As far as a similar strategy - my 2 sons (16 and 11) have been owners of our apt buildings since 2005.  They are Members of the LLCs which own our 5+ unit/commercial buildings.  My state has no age minimum for members.  It also keeps my wife and I below the 50% threshold that triggers excise tax here.  At sale time that will net us an extra $20k+ if we spread it out across a couple calendars.

    The boys' dividends from cash-flow fund their mutual funds.  They understand the difference between w-2 work and business income.  I sure wish I did at their age!

    Like you, we have pulled them out of school to go to 2 closings - 1 sale, 1 buy.  They are involved in the business and agreed in a recent meeting that they do not need to sign materially significant docs until they are 18.  They signed the Op Agreement amendment and it was a big deal.

    When something needs to be done at the properties, small jobs like periodic grounds pick-up are contributions as owners.  Most work is paid.  They each painted their first room (a closet) by age 8.  My 16yo mows lawns and shampoos carpets.  The 11yo paints and is learning to cut in.

    They don't have fancy I-phones or the most stylish clothes like other kids their age and they don't care.  They have mutual funds and they have apt buildings.  They know which will be worth more in 10 years, yet they are still humble.

    Normal is broke and in debt, chasing the latest gadget.  Congrats on being weird! Keep up the good work and thanks again for sharing your amazing story!

  • Investor · Norman, OK · Member since 2015 · 17 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    Drew Eldridge Love this! I'm a local OKC RE investor and Ron Harris and Angelina are my mentors. My dad gave me a copy of Rich Dad, Poor Dad around your son's age and that information brewed for a loooong time before I did anything with it. But so glad he gave me that book as I finally came around. Would love to meet up to talk shop and of course to get some pointers from the up and comer. ;) Feel free to reach out to me should you like. Happy to buy you guys that Starbucks to hear more of your story.
  • Queens, NY · Member since 2017 · 43 posts · 7 votes
    9y
    Congrats!
  • Real Estate Agent · Bethlehem, PA · Member since 2017 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    So excited for him!!!  You are teaching and doing all the right things!  

  • Investor · Norman, OK · Member since 2015 · 17 posts · 13 votes
    9y

    @Drew Eldridge,  

    Love it!  I would only hope to instill the same investor mindset in any future offspring.  I'm a local OKC RE investor and would love to meet up to hear more of your story and talk shop.  And also to pick up a pointer or two from the up and comer! ;)  My dad gave me a copy of Rich Dad, Poor Dad when I was your son's age.  The information in that book brewed for a looong time, but I did eventually take action.  (As so many of us know), it was a game changer once it took hold.  

    Happy to buy you guys coffee should you ever want to meet up.  @Ron Harris and Angelina are my mentors so I'm familiar with Starbucks.  :)  Feel free to message me.  Cheers!

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    9y
    This is a great story! Thank you so much for sharing!
  • Terre Haute, IN · Member since 2017 · 35 posts · 6 votes
    9y
    Agreed. Amazing story.
  • James WachobBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Memphis, TN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 890 votes
    9y

    @Alex Craig must be more behind the story. I'd love to help with anybody be the boots on the ground, in Memphis!

  • Rental Property Investor · OKC, OK · Member since 2008 · 108 posts · 235 votes
    9y

    @James Wachob @Alex Craig I grew up in Arkansas about an hour outside of Memphis so we come back that way several times a year.  May have to link up next time we are out that way.  Rendezvous Ribs, maybe?

  • James WachobBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Memphis, TN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 890 votes
    9y

    @Drew Eldridge sounds great! link up with @Sean Tagge and I next time your in town!

  • Matt PowellPro Member
    Investor · Bloomington, IL · Member since 2016 · 59 posts · 19 votes
    9y

    I don't think I can add anymore than what everyone else has already stated. But I would love to know the books he ended up reading or was it just the book Rich Dads for Teens?

    Great story.. Thanks for sharing!

  • Akron, OH · Member since 2017 · 9 posts · 4 votes
    9y
    Drew Eldridge Wow!! I thought I was starting early because I'm just starting to learn the basics and read some of the books, like Rich Dad Poor Dad, in high school. Guess I'm a couple years too late! Congrats keep him going!
  • London, ON · Member since 2016 · 15 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    @Drew Eldridge how much did you offer your kids to read the Rich Dad books?  My oldest likes to read, but I'd love to give him a little motivation to try something that will really have an impact on his life.

  • Alex CraigBusiness Member
    Real Estate Professional · Memphis, TN · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @James Wachob I was messing with you..just playing off your "boots on the ground" tag line, thought it was funny to play off that with a 12 yr old year old telling you what to do. Maybe bad attempt at humor.

    @Drew Eldridge sounds good, I would love to go with you and have James pick up the tab!

  • Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 6 votes
    9y

    Wow. That is amazing... thanks for sharing.

  • Real Estate Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2016 · 77 posts · 18 votes
    9y
    Drew Eldridge what an inspiring story! This should be a BP podcast on teaching children!
  • Rental Property Investor · Mine Hill, NJ · Member since 2014 · 229 posts · 396 votes
    9y
    Steve Vaughan really appreciate your refreshing statements on what kids should have and should be taught to hold Important - sounds like awesome parenting to me! Curious to know if you will push your kids towards college? I have two sons as well, one is almost two and the other is a week old. I have a masters in engineering myself, and a good government job doing it. But honestly the more and more I get into REI and other entrepreneurial endeavors the less inspired I am to send my kids to college. Would be curious to hear your and Drew Eldridge 's thoughts on this.
  • Investor · East Haven, CT · Member since 2016 · 53 posts · 25 votes
    9y
    Congrats!!!
  • Real Estate Agent · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 159 posts · 59 votes
    9y

    This is one of the first posts I have wanted to save, I don't have kids but it's never too early to start getting ideas for how to raise your children and teach them important life skills and lessons. Thank you for sharing!

  • Investor · Athens, GA · Member since 2011 · 306 posts · 156 votes
    9y

    @Drew Eldridge -- Now is about time to get connected with Robert Kiyosaki and his team, travel around the country and get paid to speak with your son about how a 12 year old can actually participate in this amazing real estate industry we have.  I am sure it would be lots of work, but have you seen how successful Kiyosaki has become just from coaching and speaking engagements.  I would bring my kids to listen.  

  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Sunny Burns:

    Steve Vaughan really appreciate your refreshing statements on what kids should have and should be taught to hold
    Important - sounds like awesome parenting to me!
    Curious to know if you will push your kids towards college? I have two sons as well, one is almost two and the other is a week old. I have a masters in engineering myself, and a good government job doing it. But honestly the more and more I get into REI and other entrepreneurial endeavors the less inspired I am to send my kids to college. Would be curious to hear your and Drew Eldridge 's thoughts on this.

     Thank you Sunny for even valuing my opinion about college.

    Mine toured our local community college and both want to live at home while trying that out for up to 2 years. They may move on to a vo-tech or whatever they reasonably like that makes sense. My wife and I both have undergraduate degrees and agree that a 4yr college is far from necessary.  Cheers and thanks again for asking!

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