Is Cleveland the Next Detroit?

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Figured it's been a while since I started a sh!t storm, but the population trends are startling...and they got worse from 2016-2018!

It's been on the decline for 40-years

Mitchell Litam · Answer

Brandon,

What metrics are you using for "Cleveland" population? Is this proper Cleveland or including the west and east suburbs.

With that being said it would seem both Cleveland and Cincinnati are on the exact same population trend.

The title to this thread should have been is every city in Ohio other than your beloved Columbus the next Detroit.

Scott Lyons · Answer

Cincinnati's metro area is bigger than Columbus in every recent ranking I've seen. Not sure about growth but your chart is very misleading.

Sean Grabow · Answer

Agree with a lot of people above, I think it’s hard to say. There’s too many factors to consider, including (lack of) housing affordability on the coasts. I heard the Redfin CEO even saying people were moving inland because of this.

James Galla · Answer

Looking at population trends is just not enough. You're going to have to look at a whole swath of data to see whether Cleveland is on the way to becoming Detroit. Cleveland may be in the rust belt, and there may be a steady population decline attributed to that fact, but there are a bunch of stable industries in the area that makes it unlikely that Cleveland will have a rapid decline like Detroit.Anyways, let's see some major industries in Cleveland fail before we start calling it out as a potential Detroit. There are plenty of other cities on similar footing as Cleveland.

Jordan Moorhead · Answer

@John Woodrich we do have a positive migration

Gordon Starr · Answer

Any dumbass can post up data from the past. It takes someone who knows something to interpret that data. It takes someone really smart and really well studied to see where the future is. I moved to Cleveland in the early 80s and the city went bankrupt. So many people were vacating Cleveland proper, especially the low lying areas. Since 2010, the declines are so low as to be immeasurable. With that many supposedly empty dwellings, you have no idea if the population declined that tiny amount because so many people are living between the cracks.

Unless some affordable housing starts getting built somewhere in the USA in the near future, I see a lot of people landing here, not because they want to, but because they have no other choice at their price point (zero).

Jay Hinrichs · Answer

suspect this is just flight to the suburbs and newer housing stock..

James Wise · Answer

Or Detroit................

Bjorn Ahlblad · Answer

Put Chicago on that graph! Let's get a better comparison going!

Is Cleveland the Next Detroit?

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