Optimal equity in a commercial property and why?

Optimal equity in a commercial property and why?

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What is the optimal equity you should have in a commercial property?

TL;DR version:  property is fully paid off and fully depreciated; gross lease, so landlord is responsible for prop taxes; if doing a cashout refi, what's the optimal amount of equity that the property should have?

So I've done some AI searching and it seems ~35% for equity in a property is ideal for max leverage advantages. This seems a bit low to me since purchasing a commercial property requires ~40% down to get the 1.25 rent to debt coverage.

Current property is paid off.  There's a 6.5 year lease on it with a couple of 5 year options.  I'd estimate the property is worth around $1.4m.  There is no more depreciation on the property, it's fully depreciated.  So there aren't a lot of deductions.

My thoughts are:
-pull $500k out @ 6.5% with a 10/25 loan
-monthly interest payments would be around $2700 which would give me $32.4k of deductions annually
-Take the $500k and either invest it into the stock/bond market or purchase another property (TBD)
-If we assume $500k returns 6% annually via the market, that's about $30k annually (not accounting for compounding etc)
-my net is a neg $2.4k annually, at least in year one.  But after year 1, my net should be positive with compounding

-if we take the $500k for real estate, we'd get new depreciation to offset all the rental income for awhile with a cost segregation; I'd need to sit down and do more math here.

At the end of it all I care is that the net income from pulling out $500k is greater than leaving all the equity in the property.  It seems that the equity sitting in the property is just sitting there doing nothing, not even collecting at CD/money market rates.  

This might be a difference as well.  In this particular instance, I expect the income tax rate to be 12% for 2026.    

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Greg ScottPro Member
Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
4mo

There really is no "optimal" amount of equity or debt.  It really depends on your personal investment philosophy.

For me, I never want to have a paid-in-full property.  They are targets for fraud and ambulance chasers, and often times the equity is under-performing.  I'd rather have two properties at 50% leverage than one paid-in-full.

Having zero depreciation left on the property means the tax man is taking a huge bite out of your returns.  Have you considered doing a 1031 into something else?  Moving to a new property would likely improve your total returns dramatically.

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  • Investor · Hendersonville, NC · Member since 2016 · 498 posts · 285 votes
    4mo
    Quote from @Bob Dole:

    What is the optimal equity you should have in a commercial property?

    TL;DR version:  property is fully paid off and fully depreciated; gross lease, so landlord is responsible for prop taxes; if doing a cashout refi, what's the optimal amount of equity that the property should have?

    So I've done some AI searching and it seems ~35% for equity in a property is ideal for max leverage advantages. This seems a bit low to me since purchasing a commercial property requires ~40% down to get the 1.25 rent to debt coverage.

    Current property is paid off.  There's a 6.5 year lease on it with a couple of 5 year options.  I'd estimate the property is worth around $1.4m.  There is no more depreciation on the property, it's fully depreciated.  So there aren't a lot of deductions.

    My thoughts are:
    -pull $500k out @ 6.5% with a 10/25 loan
    -monthly interest payments would be around $2700 which would give me $32.4k of deductions annually
    -Take the $500k and either invest it into the stock/bond market or purchase another property (TBD)
    -If we assume $500k returns 6% annually via the market, that's about $30k annually (not accounting for compounding etc)
    -my net is a neg $2.4k annually, at least in year one.  But after year 1, my net should be positive with compounding

    -if we take the $500k for real estate, we'd get new depreciation to offset all the rental income for awhile with a cost segregation; I'd need to sit down and do more math here.

    At the end of it all I care is that the net income from pulling out $500k is greater than leaving all the equity in the property.  It seems that the equity sitting in the property is just sitting there doing nothing, not even collecting at CD/money market rates.  

    This might be a difference as well.  In this particular instance, I expect the income tax rate to be 12% for

    I’d think of it less as “how much equity is optimal” and more as “what does the property safely support, and do I have a better use for the cash?” At 6.5%, I’d want a very clear plan for the money before pulling it out. The interest deduction helps, but you’re still paying the interest, so I wouldn’t treat that as a win by itself.

    If the $500k is going into another deal with real upside, depreciation, and a strong risk-adjusted return, that can make sense. If it’s just going into stocks/bonds because the equity feels idle, I’d be more cautious. I’d also run this by a CPA since the property is fully depreciated. The tax side may matter more than the simple “borrow at 6.5% and earn 6%” math.

  • Greg ScottPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    4mo

    There really is no "optimal" amount of equity or debt.  It really depends on your personal investment philosophy.

    For me, I never want to have a paid-in-full property.  They are targets for fraud and ambulance chasers, and often times the equity is under-performing.  I'd rather have two properties at 50% leverage than one paid-in-full.

    Having zero depreciation left on the property means the tax man is taking a huge bite out of your returns.  Have you considered doing a 1031 into something else?  Moving to a new property would likely improve your total returns dramatically.

    • Member since 2024 · 68 posts · 25 votes
      4mo
      Quote from @Greg Scott:

      There really is no "optimal" amount of equity or debt.  It really depends on your personal investment philosophy.

      For me, I never want to have a paid-in-full property.  They are targets for fraud and ambulance chasers, and often times the equity is under-performing.  I'd rather have two properties at 50% leverage than one paid-in-full.

      Having zero depreciation left on the property means the tax man is taking a huge bite out of your returns.  Have you considered doing a 1031 into something else?  Moving to a new property would likely improve your total returns dramatically.

      Yes, this is what gnaws at me, the equity isn't doing anything, not even making 1%.  Hence my thoughts about pulling cash out and purchasing another property. As long as the net cashflow is better, why wouldn't you?  Just more work that's all.  

      I'd rather not do a 1031 at this point. Seems easier to just take equity out and purchase something in the $1-1.5m range.  I'd rather not be "forced" into a 1031 investment if it doesn't check all the boxes.  
  • Ronald RohdePro Member
    Attorney · Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4mo

    Pulling 50% seems fine, but just have a deal ready for that capital

  • Henry ClarkPro Member
    Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    4mo

    OP.  Provide more info for a better response.

    Example:

    1.  Your retired and drawing social security and using the rental for living.  Don't refinance if your Commercial loan has a 5 year balloon and your think interest rates will go from 6.5% up to 13%. 

    2.  Is this a 4 plex sitting on 3 acres of ground?  Can you use your equity and build another 4 plex?

    3.  Is this an Industrial building sitting on xx acres.  Can you lay some rock down and rent out Semi/Construction equipment parking.

    4.  Don't take a loan out unless you know what your going to do with the cash.  You might get a Working Line of Credit so you are prepared to do a deal on a Distressed property or situation.

    5. What is the expected Capex items on the existing property and estimate?

    6.  What business is the current renter in?  Even with a 6.5 year remaining lease, doesn't matter if their business isn't there. Example are they a Shoe store, retail, garage, etc.

    7. Have you thought of selling to the current renter? $700k out with a $700k note at 7% interest. NNN. Escalation clauses if Insurance or property taxes not current. Buy Back options at 80 % value if property not maintained. "Additional Insured" on their insurance. Etc to protect your value. Payoff clause if they sale or take an additional loan against it.

    8.  Etc Etc.

  • Member since 2024 · 144 posts · 28 votes
    3mo

    Your diagnostic analysis is 100% correct: leaving a commercial property completely free and clear once it is fully depreciated creates a 'dead equity' trap that severely drags down your global wealth velocity. That equity is currently earning a 0% internal yield.

    A 35% equity position (65% LTV) is the institutional sweet spot for a cash-out refinance. Because you have a stable tenant with 6.5 years left on the primary lease, alternative lenders will view this as a low-risk profile that easily clears the standard 1.25x Debt Service Coverage Ratio (DSCR) floor, allowing you to extract $500,000 in tax-free cash cleanly.

    However, do not put that $500k into a 6% stock market when your debt cost is 6.5%—that creates a negative arbitrage spread. Instead, deploy that $500k as a down payment on a second commercial property. This creates the ultimate wealth multiplier: you keep the $32.4k annual interest deduction on property number one to lower your current tax bill, and you run an immediate Cost Segregation Study on property number two to unlock a massive wave of fresh accelerated depreciation. This new paper loss will completely erase the rental income on the new asset and heavily shelter the remaining cash flow on your original building. Skip the slow local banks and execute this cash-out via a Commercial DSCR Loan under an LLC via a Non-QM platform; they will underwrite the strength of your 6.5-year lease rather than your personal tax returns, handing you liquid capital with cash-equivalent speed

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