Rental Properties rental Interest Rate

Rental Properties rental Interest Rate

Patrick RowePro Member
Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes

I just got a quote from our lender on a rental property. Is this typical with what you guys are seeing in your area?  Also are you guys getting a better interest rate?

5 year balloon at 5.711 interest rate Amortized over 30 years. 

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Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Patrick Rowe:

@Alexander Felice- Yes, It's a business loan in my LLC NAME.

yeah I figured when you said balloon payment.

So, not to negate anyone in this thread's advice that you can get better rates, because you may be able to, however it's important to know all the details when comparing rates. It's likely that all the other posters quoting rates @ 30 year terms have residential loans, these rates and terms will simply not be comparable for you.

5.71 isn't bad, you should expect 20 year amortization-ish

always call around and shop rate/terms. What you have isn't bad though.

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  • Missy H.Pro Member
    Investor · Bloomfield, NJ · Member since 2015 · 207 posts · 121 votes
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    @Patrick Rowe

    I would suggest that you shop around to see what the norm is for your area.  On my recent purchase, I obtained a loan for 4.8% fixed for 30 years.   Check with local banks and credit unions, they may be less expensive and have more options for you.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2013 · 803 posts · 689 votes
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    I just closed a loan for an investment property with 25% down 30 yr loan from a local bank for fixed rate of 4.375%.

    One before that was 4.6% and the one before that was 4.75%. 

    Shop around

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Jake Thomas- Ok thanks, I have this lender that lends 80 percent of ARV on a construction loans interest only for 9 months and then it converts over to a 30 year loan. So basicly I buying a rental property with out a down payment.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2013 · 803 posts · 689 votes
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    @Patrick Rowe is it a hard money lender? 

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    No Sir, it's a local community bank. This is my second rental that he has finance.

  • South Jersey · Member since 2016 · 78 posts · 35 votes
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    Definitely shop around.. I just got hooked up with a lender and they are giving me 30yr fixed rate at 4.25%
  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Dawn Curry- Ok thanks, Is the lender requiring a down payment?

  • South Jersey · Member since 2016 · 78 posts · 35 votes
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    @Patrick Rowe yes.. I just posted a thread about that a couple days ago and most lenders (well around me at least) all require 20% down for an investment property. I also had a local bank offer me a 15yr fixed rate or a 30yr adjustable rate. I obviously am going to go with the lender who is offering 30yr fixed. 

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Dawn Curry- Ok, I will shop around to see If I can get some better rates. This is my second rental that he has finance and it's hard passing up no money down.

  • South Jersey · Member since 2016 · 78 posts · 35 votes
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    @Patrick Rowe You can't use a HELOC?

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    Yes, but I rather not use the one I have on my personal residence.

  • Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    is this a business loan? Everyone is saying that it's low, but situations differ greatly. I just took a 4.5% loan on my primary so 5.71 on a rental seems pretty good to me.

    Like I said though, the type of loan and other factors do matter. My rate is higher because it's a cash out refi, your rate will be higher if it's a business loan, etc. Shop around though, if other people are getting lower rates, you may be able to as well.

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Alexander Felice- Yes, It's a business loan in my LLC NAME.

  • Investor · Lindale, TX · Member since 2016 · 18 posts · 3 votes
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    The problem I found with financing 100% is that it decreases your cash flow. I built a 3-2 brick and get $1175. But taxes and the loans eat up my cash flow.
  • Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Patrick Rowe:

    @Alexander Felice- Yes, It's a business loan in my LLC NAME.

    yeah I figured when you said balloon payment.

    So, not to negate anyone in this thread's advice that you can get better rates, because you may be able to, however it's important to know all the details when comparing rates. It's likely that all the other posters quoting rates @ 30 year terms have residential loans, these rates and terms will simply not be comparable for you.

    5.71 isn't bad, you should expect 20 year amortization-ish

    always call around and shop rate/terms. What you have isn't bad though.

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Alexander Felice- Yes, I just realized the other rates were residential. I will check with some other local lenders, but I think this is really competitive on a 30 year business loan.

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Eben Cook- On my first rental, I'm cash flowing pretty good and here in Louisiana our property taxes is not as high as Texas.

  • Investor · Lafayette/Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 915 votes
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    Hey @Patrick Rowe, I was going to say it, but @Alexander Felice already nailed it.  You are doing a commercial loan in the name of your business and that will almost always be higher than if you get the loan in your own name like I'm sure most of the above posts are referring to.  It is a unusual to get a 30 yr amortization for a commercial loan.  I wouldn't mind that rate because with the amortization, you are still working with numbers that will probably cash flow well.

  • Investor · Lafayette/Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 915 votes
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    I also wanted to add, @Eben Cook makes a point that I think deserves some discussion. 100% financing of cost is not the same thing as 100% of FMV. Patrick is well positioned, as a builder/investor, and I'm sure his cost total acquisition cost is well below the value of the property. I try and usually succeed at 100% financing on all of my pre-existing properties, but I am not leveraged over 80% of value on any of them. There's a big difference.

  • Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Robert Leonard:

    I also wanted to add, @Eben Cook makes a point that I think deserves some discussion. 100% financing of cost is not the same thing as 100% of FMV. Patrick is well positioned, as a builder/investor, and I'm sure his cost total acquisition cost is well below the value of the property. I try and usually succeed at 100% financing on all of my pre-existing properties, but I am not leveraged over 80% of value on any of them. There's a big difference.

    very well said. 100% financing of FMV and 100% financing of cost are very different. Financing 100% of value can be risky. financing 100% of cost @ 80% of value is THE DREAM!

    also:

    Originally posted by @Robert Leonard:

    Hey @Patrick Rowe, I was going to say it, but @Alexander Felice already nailed it. You are doing a commercial loan in the name of your business and that will almost always be higher than if you get the loan in your own name like I'm sure most of the above posts are referring to. It is a unusual to get a 30 yr amortization for a commercial loan. I wouldn't mind that rate because with the amortization, you are still working with numbers that will probably cash flow well.

    agreed, MY BANK WON'T DO THOSE TERMS FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /vent

    the main reason I popped back in here was to say again that 5.7 @ 30 for a commercial loan is actually pretty freaking good haha. You're probably bumped up in rate a little bit to subsidize the long term but if you're cash flow positive I would take it!

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Robert Leonard-Hey Robert you are correct, the property appraisal for $91,500 and the bank will loan me $73,500. Also the purchase price is $48,900 and it will cost me around $18000 to renovate which will put me at $66,900. That will put me well below ARV.

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Alexander Felice-Yes, I agree these are some pretty good terms and it will cash flow well.

  • Bryan DruryPro Member
    Investor · Owensboro, KY · Member since 2008 · 131 posts · 65 votes
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    @Patrick Rowe I got a term and rate sheet last month from a local community bank for a commercial loan titled in our LLC name. It was for a 5/1 ARM,amortized over 20 years,80%LV with an interest rate of 4.25%. This was a cash out refinance loan on a free and clear property.We bought carryout seafood at Tony's back in January. Excellent eating. Going back in April to see the daughter

  • Patrick RowePro Member
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    Investor · Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2011 · 133 posts · 13 votes
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    @Bryan Drury Ok Thanks, Tony's is one of several good eating spots here in Baton Rouge. The next time your here try out Parrains Seafood.

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 90 posts · 28 votes
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    Patrick Rowe contact Prime Lending on Bluebonnet. I have two multiplexes I finance through them. 75% LTV, 4.5%, 30 year fixed.
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